Alfredson007 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Just another thing though: You know that in the track you provided, it took you roughly 2 minutes and 15 seconds to climb from 0 to 10.000 meters? That is quit respectable climb performance if you ask me... Haha. Omg. It just watched my own track from the OUTSIDE which shows feet. So the altimeters short hand is only used for the inner circle that shows full kilometers? I have used it as conventional altimeter, so if the short hand was between 4 and 5 i thought i was in 4500 meters ... :-) Okay, sorry. Feeling a bit stupid... :) Edit: Yeah, i've read the manual (here and there) and i just skipped the altimeter section by "yeah, it's regular altimeter, but showing meters instead of feet Gosh... EDIT2: I must say. This module is so freaking cool. I also have the Sabre F86 which is a pussycat compared to this... everything's familiar... but here... all new. Overwhelmingly steep learning curve for me but i like it. Must digest it slowly. I might add that i was expecting darker sky when i am in 10km+ altitude, that also distracted me a bit... Thanks for all though :) Edited February 16, 2015 by Alfredson007
xxJohnxx Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 So the altimeters short hand is only used for the inner circle that shows full kilometers? I have used it as conventional altimeter, so if the short hand was between 4 and 5 i thought i was in 4500 meters ... :-) Hehe, yes, that got me a couple of times in the beginning also. :pilotfly::joystick: Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
effte Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 And just to be explicit about it, the 7 min figure is without reheat. Reheat adds about 75% thrust according to Wikipedia, of which everything goes into vertical speed... ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
NORTHMAN Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Haha. Omg. It just watched my own track from the OUTSIDE which shows feet. So the altimeters short hand is only used for the inner circle that shows full kilometers? I have used it as conventional altimeter, so if the short hand was between 4 and 5 i thought i was in 4500 meters ... :-) Okay, sorry. Feeling a bit stupid... :) Edit: Yeah, i've read the manual (here and there) and i just skipped the altimeter section by "yeah, it's regular altimeter, but showing meters instead of feet Gosh... EDIT2: I must say. This module is so freaking cool. I also have the Sabre F86 which is a pussycat compared to this... everything's familiar... but here... all new. Overwhelmingly steep learning curve for me but i like it. Must digest it slowly. I might add that i was expecting darker sky when i am in 10km+ altitude, that also distracted me a bit... Thanks for all though :) hahaha you make me laugh a lot! altimeter ans IAS can be confusing from the mig module (kph and meter on altimeter) to the sabre (knots and feets). I practice with the mig for a month and after that I was confuse about the gauge in the huey. have fun :doh: Prend ton temps mais fait ca vite :cold:... LG34''21:9 Asus 23''monitors Intel i7-4590 EVGA 1070 Superclocked Gskills 4x4G RAM Fatal1ty AsRock Z97 killer motherboard in a HAF black box with 4 CH products plug in and logitech G510, F310, M510 and M570 plus trackIR 5!
Dirty Rotten Flieger Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Gee I'm really surprised that the manual says to climb at constant TAS. I always look at IAS for climb. But then it occurs to me that climbing at constant TAS means roughly constant MAch number. I think? So if you're climbing with tanks and missiles then you wanna climb to 10km at subsonic speed cause the tanks will not let you climb supersonic anyway... Maybe this is why they say to climb at constant TAS instead of IAS?
effte Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 DRF, no. The speed of sound reduces with the reducing temp as you climb, increasing the Mach number for a constant TAS. Also, see my earlier post re climb schedules. ----- Introduction to UTM/MGRS - Trying to get your head around what trim is, how it works and how to use it? - DCS helos vs the real world.
FoReIgNeR Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I just calculated/created reference graphs for all you metric Mig-21 armchair pilots =) Two graphs of Mach/IAS and Mach/TAS versus altitude. All in Km/h and meters. IAS/Mach versus altitude TAS/Mach versus altitude Cheers! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Limitless Aerobatics Team Facebook
Dirty Rotten Flieger Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Oh those graphs are great. That's what I was trying to get at. There is much less of a curve for M/TAS than M/IAS so TAS is a "less wrong" indicator of M number than IAS and that's why they say to use it.
FoReIgNeR Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Exactly, a constant TAS of 870Km/h ensures subsonic flight throughout the entire troposphere and tropopause ; ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Limitless Aerobatics Team Facebook
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