nscode Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 I was just wondering... in lockon, you can turn on the helmet mounted sight, lock a target and the targeting circle will stay on it while you look around. But this is wrong, yeah? The targeting circle is fixet to your helmet. So do we know, irl, do you have to keep the circle on the target all the time? Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
EvilBivol-1 Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 You have to keep it over the target for as long as it takes the computer to attain a lock while you hold down the LOCK button on the throttle, which may be some seconds. Once a system/missile lock is achieved, you are good to fire and enjoy the scenery. - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
nscode Posted May 10, 2006 Author Posted May 10, 2006 Yes, but what if you don't want to fire or can't fire yet. Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
Force_Feedback Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 Yes, but what if you don't want to fire or can't fire yet. The real sight changes the ring to interrupted stripes when the target is locked (look it up in the su-27 manual, there is a nice pic of it), so even if you look away, you know you locked on, as the ring is striped. The lock takes about a second in real life. After that you can decide wether you want to fire your expensive missile. Wait a bit, I'll look up the pic, and will post it in here. 42: Targeting rings 43: Blinking targeting rings (at 2 Hz rate) during target lock with radar ot optical system with the HMS 44: Targeting rings with cross, during Launch Authorized command 45: Targeting rings with cross, blinking in antiphase (2 Hz) during "NOP" (guess that meant launch not possible) signal generated by r-73e. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
RvETito Posted May 10, 2006 Posted May 10, 2006 Moreover, if you hold down both the lock(on the throttle) and the launch(on the stick) buttons while maneuvering and you place the circle over a target which is in missile's seeker and radar&EOS limits, the missile will start right after it locks the target, which as Force_Feedback said takes about 1 second. This is a great feature in CAC and dogfight. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Weta43 Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 That's true of all the BVR & WVR systems for the -27 & -29 isn't it - that in real life you can fly around with the "trigger" already pulled then as soon as anything is locked & meets the launch parameters - SHE'S OFF!!! Cheers.
Force_Feedback Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 That's true of all the BVR & WVR systems for the -27 & -29 isn't it - that in real life you can fly around with the "trigger" already pulled then as soon as anything is locked & meets the launch parameters - SHE'S OFF!!! Imagine how the guys of the ground will feel when you'll shoot down their expensive reconaissance drone. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Weta43 Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 I think they've shot their wingmen down a couple of time flying around with everything "hot" then having a friendly cross their bow Cheers.
nscode Posted May 11, 2006 Author Posted May 11, 2006 Everyone has been doing that since WWI... Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
Cobra360 Posted May 11, 2006 Posted May 11, 2006 I think they've shot their wingmen down a couple of time flying around with everything "hot" then having a friendly cross their bow It happened in the '91 Gulf War. A pair of 29s were stalking a formation of Strike Eagles. The Eagle pilots could see them on their targeting pods while remaining radar silent. This was all at night, the MiGs had their IFF switched off and one MiG shot down his wingman, the shooter pilot it is believed then sufferend night blindness from the explosion and then flew into the ground. I don't think that it is still practiced to fly around with the trigger pulled.
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