PiedDroit Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 Not speaking about high performance cars or racetrack ones, I think the HUD is useful to keep track of your speed and traffic at the same time. Saying that the HUD is a life saver because of the sheer performance of the car is a bit too much :p In France there was so many automatic fixed / mobile radars that you had to grow a second pair of eyes to monitor your speed in order to avoid speed tickets, making some people less aware of the surroundings.
StrongHarm Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) Saying that the HUD is a life saver because of the sheer performance of the car is a bit too much :p Get behind the 6.2L V8 and performance features of a Camaro 2SS and try to drive it to it's limits. The point is.. because of its computer augmentation you now can drive one to the limits without being a professional driver. This is not exaggeration; a racecar driver tested the new higher end Camaros and Corvettes and became angry.. he said "I spent over 20 years learning to brake and corner properly and you a**holes have programmed a computer so anyone can do it now.. " A professional driver doesn't need the indicators but we mortals do.. they have intuition via experience... and being a mortal I'd rather not take my eyes off the road. The usefulness of the HUD on a car like this is not hype.. but I'm not sure I can convince you without you experiencing it.. it's kind of like the Oculus Rift.. you can't explain it visually or verbally.. you just have to see it yourself to understand it. So.. try it out and see for yourself. Edited May 16, 2015 by StrongHarm 1 It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
boomerang10 Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 Having a HUD in a car is something I wish more manufacturers would do. Chevy got it right in the Corvette. It's absolutely worth it to not have to look down to check your speed and, to a lesser extent, fuel or tach in traffic. Saying it goes past that is a stretch. There's zero reason to care about Gs and if you're truly driving a car "to the limit," as in at the track, you've got other things to worry about than MPH, at least while actually driving. MPH is just for bragging rights at the bar. Progress is shown through laptimes, not speed, in my opinion. And yes, I have seen/done it. However, for street driving, its purpose is to keep your eyes on the road. Anything you can do, for the average driver, to keep their eyes looking outside and attentive is a good thing.
StrongHarm Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 G reading is good to judge max corner threshold.. speed isn't as much of a factor as speed*angle.. so G force is a good relative indicator of how hard you can take a turn without losing traction. I'm not concerned with lap time, max speed, or bragging rights.. it's all about performing to max threshold while alone on the back roads. For this purpose the HUD is invaluable in my opinion. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
PiedDroit Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 Get behind the 6.2L V8 and performance features of a Camaro 2SS and try to drive it to it's limits...I wasn't denying the fact the HUD would give an edge and/or make the car safer to use, I'm just saying it's not an ON/OFF thing. I wouldn't dare pushing this type of car to it's limits while being a complete noob at the same time :D no HUD would ever convince me haha. Maybe on the Great Salt Lake, or on a deserted runway.
SharpeXB Posted May 17, 2015 Posted May 17, 2015 Actually, with my Camaro, it would be unsafe not to have the HUD. Yeah this wasn't in a super car like a Camaro, it was a big family sedan :music_whistling: i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
StrongHarm Posted May 17, 2015 Posted May 17, 2015 Is there anything about this statement that deserves anything but derision? NeilWillis.. your pattern of frequent derision has me concerned for you. I'll be your friend. These are country roads with extreme line of sight. I'm a 44yr old veteran with a family of my own.. if I kill someone it's not by accident. I'm not too concerned about 'getting in trouble' for my driving.. I know all the cops around here and I'm not a criminal. We're mostly intelligent people on these boards right? It's not a stretch to assume I had it covered.. If you really want to attack me for me my 'excessive freedom' we should have a discussion about my firearms sometime. I'd hate to see the left wing palsy it would induce though.. messy those. Back to the OP topic of HUDs.. I was simply stating an example of their usefulness in this context, as that was the line of discussion. No need for derision here. Carry on. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
boomerang10 Posted May 17, 2015 Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) NeilWillis.. your pattern of frequent derision has me concerned for you. I'll be your friend. These are country roads with extreme line of sight. I'm a 44yr old veteran with a family of my own.. if I kill someone it's not by accident. I'm not too concerned about 'getting in trouble' for my driving.. I know all the cops around here and I'm not a criminal. We're mostly intelligent people on these boards right? It's not a stretch to assume I had it covered.. If you really want to attack me for me my 'excessive freedom' we should have a discussion about my firearms sometime. I'd hate to see the left wing palsy it would induce though.. messy those. Back to the OP topic of HUDs.. I was simply stating an example of their usefulness in this context, as that was the line of discussion. No need for derision here. Carry on. Well, I am not going to further argue their usefulness. I know how useful they are in both the context of an aircraft and car, and having used both with a HUD, I wouldn't go back. Now just to get what I drive as a daily driver to have an HUD and an DEP to change the radio stations when I'm driving, that'd be greattttt. Also, no disrespect as far as your service. Without being more specific in the open to maintain some sort of anonymity, current AD here. Edited May 17, 2015 by boomerang10
StrongHarm Posted May 17, 2015 Posted May 17, 2015 That's hard work Boom. Thank you for your service and your sacrifice. I started IS but moved to AME. Since there were never enough ADs and I was a pretty good troubleshooter and loved the birds, I crossrated AD. I later ended up crossrating AMS and AE as well. Only problem with that was they started putting me in charge of all 224 day inspections. No good deed goes unpunished! :) Stay safe and keep'em flying, Boom. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
Random Posted May 18, 2015 Posted May 18, 2015 I think HUD's will become a standard feature on cars un the next few years. I'm unlikely to own anything truly modern any time soon I'll be stuck with analogue gauges for a while yet! Oldest car I own was built in 69. Newest in 92 and I consider that to be a computer with wheels! Strongharm i'm very surprised you enthuse more about your new camaro than the old one! Saw a camaro of that vintage in London last friday. Real presence and an air of brute force.
Frostie Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 The point is.. because of its computer augmentation you now can drive one to the limits without being a professional driver. This is not exaggeration; a racecar driver tested the new higher end Camaros and Corvettes and became angry.. he said "I spent over 20 years learning to brake and corner properly and you a**holes have programmed a computer so anyone can do it now.. " I'm sure VW would tell you they did this 20 years ago. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
zaelu Posted May 19, 2015 Posted May 19, 2015 Get behind the 6.2L V8 and performance features of a Camaro 2SS and try to drive it to it's limits. The point is.. because of its computer augmentation you now can drive one to the limits without being a professional driver. This is not exaggeration; a racecar driver tested the new higher end Camaros and Corvettes and became angry.. he said "I spent over 20 years learning to brake and corner properly and you a**holes have programmed a computer so anyone can do it now.. " A professional driver doesn't need the indicators but we mortals do.. they have intuition via experience... and being a mortal I'd rather not take my eyes off the road. The usefulness of the HUD on a car like this is not hype.. but I'm not sure I can convince you without you experiencing it.. it's kind of like the Oculus Rift.. you can't explain it visually or verbally.. you just have to see it yourself to understand it. So.. try it out and see for yourself. There is the problem. The car should be safer but because of all the "augumentations" people think they can push it to... its limits not knowing that they already passed their own. apparently the same happens with planes and advanced avionics... is not bad to have all of that... is bad that there is still a driver/pilot in the car/plane to push it to the limits. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
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