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I'd like to report that stick moves matches real life speed moves of hog stick. However, collective (power, not throttle), seems to lag in speed versus the real hog throttle.

 

Do I make sense? If not I'll post a video.

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I'd like to report that stick moves matches real life speed moves of hog stick. However, collective (power, not throttle), seems to lag in speed versus the real hog throttle.

 

Do I make sense? If not I'll post a video.

The question is: RL Huey collective movemnt speed equal DCS Huey collective movement speed? I.e. maybe there is some kind of dampening happening in the real thing - and therefore in the DCS Huey as well? Perhaps because of the hydraulics?

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I've always noticed that the virtual collective movements lag subtley relative to the controller. The cyclic, however, seems 1:1 responsive.

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It's real, it's designed in almost all helos to prevent from rapid pull taht can lead to prop stall, it also allows to let the turbine catch up and stuff. :)

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ah so what you guys are saying is that its normal.

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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yes, of course in real life you could use more arm strength to move it faster, but never in a sim. bottom line is that collectives are hard and slow for the stated reasons.

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Thanks guys

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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Hard and slow? Not on any helicopter I've ever worked on...but then I suppose that depends on what you mean by "hard and slow". It's not the controls that make it slow, it's the fact that the pilot wants to live.

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Worked on?? Are you a pilot?

 

The friction on a collective is MUCH more than on any throttle, mixture, prop pitch, or anything.

 

That is what I meant.

 

 

IMO it well implemented in DCS, if what you was true then it is not correctly simulated.

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From the top of my head, the force required to move the collective of an AW139 up (or down) is around 3 pounds.

This is measured at the centre of the handgrip.

 

Also, to my knowledge there is not any kind of dampening device to prevent you from moving it at whatever speed you would desire.

 

Same is true for other helicopters, probably including the Huey.

Though, i never worked on it so cant say for sure.

 

(there is an adjustable friction however, this allows the pilot to adjust the force required to move the collective or even completely lock it if he so wishes.)

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Why would he want to lock a collective in huey? AFAIK, huey collective is considered primitive compared to modern helicopters. Its like Robinson 22 if I have to compare.

AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS

 

Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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