Question on " Ta" lock

[dburne]

Hey gang,

 

As you know I have been devoting much time lately trying to learn the Ka-50. I am getting there, am now able to pretty much ace the shooting range mission each time, using all my weapons - even getting some hits with the rockets finally.

 

I have been reading much of the manual, but I have not come across clarification on something. When I sight a target in the SHKVAL , lase the target and then lock it, if I am at proper distance I get the " Ta" symbal, which is what I want of course. The timer counts down, it gets to zero and then I launch my VKHR.

 

Now, once the missile hits the target, say a tank, it starts smoking. There is a short period of time after it starts smoking before it explodes and is then destroyed.

My question: During this period of time, after the hit and before it explodes, I can not slew the SKKVAL until after the target is destroyed ( at which point the symbol changes from Ta to TT), then I can slew to the next target.

 

I am sure there is a simple way, that I can slew it after the target is hit and starts smoking, but before it is actually considered destroyed, so I can quickly lock on another target that is in close vicinity?

 

Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

[ricktoberfest]

Hold he target designate button and slew away from the target

 

 

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[dburne]

Hold he target designate button and slew away from the target

 

:thumbup:

 

Thank you so much!

[ajax]

Hold he target designate button and slew away from the target

I just tap the designate target button (or is it the uncage shkval) -- I don't think you have to hold it.

[rrohde]

Tapping didn't work for me. Had to hold the target button (Enter key by default) and then use my slew key to slew it away. Haven't tried with the uncage shkval button (O key by default).

[dburne]

Uncage shkval button becomes the designate target button once uncaged.

[ricktoberfest]

Tapping simply locks to the same target for me- unless it blows up in the mean time

 

 

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[dburne]

Holding designate target while moving the slew has been working for me so far. Couple of times it did not seem to take but overall it seems to be doing it for the most part. ( Maybe I tried slewing the shkval before actually getting the button pressed and held, not sure).

 

I will be working with it more in the morning to see how I do. Nice to be able to lock on other close by enemies while the one I just hit is still smoking before blowing up. I can get through the shooting range mission much quicker now.

Edited October 26, 2015 by dburne

[rrohde]

Tapping simply locks to the same target for me- unless it blows up in the mean time

 

 

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Of course, that would beg the question as to how a TV camera and a Laser would know when a target has blown up vs it just being a target? Doesn't such designation simply "lock on" to a point in space and stays there? Correct me if I am wrong, but how would such system know a target is done for?

[dburne]

Ok so I have found that two presses on the uncage shkval/designate target button allows the shkval to be moved easily while the vehicle is smoking but before it is totally destroyed. It does not have to be held down.

[M1Combat]

It doesn't rrohde. It just waits a specific length of time after impact. Seems to be lined up with about the same time it takes for a smoking tank to explode.

[Johnny Dioxin]

Ok so I have found that two presses on the uncage shkval/designate target button allows the shkval to be moved easily while the vehicle is smoking but before it is totally destroyed. It does not have to be held down.

 

 

IIRC double-tapping puts the Shkval into sweep mode, so it would move away anyway.

[dburne]

IIRC double-tapping puts the Shkval into sweep mode, so it would move away anyway.

 

Hmm, does not seem to be doing that to me, two quick taps and I can move it with my shkval slew, it is definilely not sweeping.

I will have to check it again.

[Johnny Dioxin]

Actually, I think I was wrong.

 

I think it goes into sweep mode when it is uncaged, then stops on the second key press.

 

I'm getting old, y'know... :music_whistling:

[dburne]

Lol, yeah I just double checked it.

 

With a target lock (TA). two quick presses on designate target button releases the lock and allow the shkval to be slewed.

With a (TT), the second press on the designate target button puts in sweep mode - another press disables sweep mode and puts it back in a fixed mode.

[rrohde]

It doesn't rrohde. It just waits a specific length of time after impact. Seems to be lined up with about the same time it takes for a smoking tank to explode.

 

And the system knows the time of impact based on the time-to-fly of the missile I guess? Wonder if that's like that in RL.

[ricktoberfest]

Of course, that would beg the question as to how a TV camera and a Laser would know when a target has blown up vs it just being a target? Doesn't such designation simply "lock on" to a point in space and stays there? Correct me if I am wrong, but how would such system know a target is done for?

 

The way I understand the system, it takes a kind of snapshot of whats in the target designate box, and compares that to what changes in the box. I assume if the target changed drastically and quickly (maybe by blowing up or being covered in smoke), it thinks the target is no longer valid.

 

Of course I don't really know, just various things I've read on the forums here :music_whistling:

[Nerd1000]

The way I understand the system, it takes a kind of snapshot of whats in the target designate box, and compares that to what changes in the box. I assume if the target changed drastically and quickly (maybe by blowing up or being covered in smoke), it thinks the target is no longer valid.

 

Of course I don't really know, just various things I've read on the forums here :music_whistling:

 

My understanding is that the real system finds the four highest contrast points inside the target box and attempts to keep the aim point between them.

 

The in-game system, however, cheats. Rather than mucking about finding high contrast points in the image it just locks on to any in-game unit that the shkval is pointing at. There are hard-coded rules that make sure it maintains any offset from the middle of the unit at the moment of lock-on and prevent it from locking on in the dark.

 

When a vehicle explodes it is removed from the game world and replaced with a static wreck which is not treated as a valid target. As a result the shkval automatically loses lock.