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razo+r

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Hello community

 

I came to a point where i can affort a water cooling for my PC.

 

I watched several tutorials, reviews, unboxing and tipps, but some things i still don't know.

 

My thaughts are a single loop in the Phanteks Enthoo Pro M, with 2*240mm rads or 1*240 and 1*360mm rad

 

But now i have some questions:

 

-Would this be a good case since i don't want to spend too much money for it and does anyone have experience with this case?

 

-Would a 240mm rad be enough to cool a i7-4790K? After playing 2 hours of DCS with a H80I, not overclocked and proper contact to the CPU, it reached 90 degrees celsius, but until now, i only experienced it once.

 

-Would a 240mm rad be enough for cooling an MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming with slightly overclocking? Or would be a 360mm rad be enough?

 

My thaughts about the loop would be from the

 

EK Water Blocks EK-DCP 4.0 PWM X-RES incl. pump -> CPU -> 240mm radiator -> GPU -> 240mm radiator -> EK Water Blocks EK-DCP 4.0 PWM X-RES incl. pump

 

Or is it better for going a double loop?

 

-And last question, does anyone have some experience with other cases for water cooling?

My only limitation is my budget around 150$ and i need a HDD spot and a place for my DVD reader

 

Sorry for some english mistakes

PureEvil

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what pc case you have now? have you considered to put radiator on top of the case? i'm planning to do so, even that at the moment everything fits inside the case just fine )))

limit 150$ for case only?

no double loop needed, just cpu + gpu is not that much components to cool.

about radiators, there is a rule saying 120mm rad per component is enough, so in your case even 240 rad should be enough. but there is never too much cooling in pc, with more rads there is no need to run fans at full speed to cool everything. i run 2600k + 780Ti on a single 280mm (80mm thick) radiator with fans running at about 70%. temps almost never go over 60C.

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razo+r

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Right now i have a Sharkoon T9, with only 1*120mm aviable, no on top radiator space aviable.

 

What i could do is put the tubes out of the case, but a nogo for me, because the case is actually small.

PureEvil

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is this the same type of case?

 

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what i meant by radiator at the top is this (except there should be used as many mounting screws as possible, so it doesn't break the radiator):

 

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on top of that T9 would nicely fit some of the Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta series radiator. no need to have radiator between every component, from what i've been reading, there is very little to none gain in temperature, when using 2-3 smaller radiators instead of 1 big radiator.

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I'm using a Corsair Carbide 540 with a front mounted 3x120mm rad and top 2x140mm. It copes with a de-lidded Haswell i7 @ 4.5ghz and pair of gtx 780 ti's without much trouble!

 

20140517_164816_zpsb0415164.jpg

 

I'd not want to run less that a 3x120mm for CPU plus GPU. Ideally more.

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PureEvil

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I'm using a Corsair Carbide 540 with a front mounted 3x120mm rad and top 2x140mm. It copes with a de-lidded Haswell i7 @ 4.5ghz and pair of gtx 780 ti's without much trouble!

 

20140517_164816_zpsb0415164.jpg

 

I'd not want to run less that a 3x120mm for CPU plus GPU. Ideally more.

 

do front rad fans blowing in or out of the case?

 

 

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In at front out at top. It's a compromise though as it means the top rad gets warmed air pulled through it.

 

Once I move house I'll be going back to my 9x120mm rad and external reservoir. Much neater plumbing is possible then.

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PureEvil

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In at front out at top. It's a compromise though as it means the top rad gets warmed air pulled through it.

 

i guess MB gets warmer too. this is why i want to move my front mount rad on top of the case, no compromises lol

 

 

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Cibit

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My latest build uses a XSPC resevoir with variable D5 pump.

360 XSPC rad the water temp is constant loads of headroom for adding a GPU block.

It all sits in a Cosmos S case. Its got a nice big fan on the side blowing in and 1 120mm fan sucking in over the HDD caddy. The other 5 120mm fans blow out including the 3 atop the rad.

The gear I have comes in kit form now and I highly recommend it. Waterver you do make sure you get a D5 pump:)

 

Edit, I also have a small Mosfet fan and a mounted pair of RAM fans which also cool the MB

 

http://www.xs-pc.com/watercooling-kits/raystorm-d5-ex360-watercooling-kit

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PureEvil

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Cosmos S case

 

that is 1 huge case and lots of fans lol

 

 

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razo+r

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is this the same type of case?

 

55962.jpg?d=1328210292

 

what i meant by radiator at the top is this (except there should be used as many mounting screws as possible, so it doesn't break the radiator):

 

bc1cf76a_vbattach232576.jpeg

 

on top of that T9 would nicely fit some of the Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta series radiator. no need to have radiator between every component, from what i've been reading, there is very little to none gain in temperature, when using 2-3 smaller radiators instead of 1 big radiator.

 

Yes, even the colour is the same :)

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I run 420w of video cards in a Cooler Master HAF X. I can't imagine a smaller case during hot summer days.

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razo+r

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Well, would be a 240mm rad enough for a 980Ti and afterwards a 4790k?

 

I just hope with this setup, it won't overheat the water too quick and also

 

what happens if the water or liquid exceeds the max temperature of the pump or the tubes?

PureEvil

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Well, would be a 240mm rad enough for a 980Ti and afterwards a 4790k?

 

I just hope with this setup, it won't overheat the water too quick and also

 

what happens if the water or liquid exceeds the max temperature of the pump or the tubes?

 

i'd say it could be enough if you run everything at stock speeds and you have good airflow inside the case.

 

 

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Cibit

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that is 1 huge case and lots of fans lol

 

I could never go back to anything smaller, my hands are too big;)

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razo+r

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XS PC setup. I like there stuff. Wicked quality and easy to install.

 

What for radiators and cpu and gpu do you use?

 

and what temperature?

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I bought this package:

http://www.ncix.com/detail/xspc-raystorm-d5-ex360-water-bd-79208.htm

 

As you can see, I bought a few 90's and etc so I would not have to bend the tubing.

 

The GPU's are Asus Poseidon cards so they have built in water cooling.

Average temps during flight are 45C on the GPU's and around 60C on the CPU

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razo+r

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I would suggest a larger rad and a higher quality pump.

 

Higher quality pump, ok thanks, but bigger radiator, you mean thickness or length?

razo+r

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Length. Its about cooling surface. Thickness won't help as much.

 

Well... I would like to have the optical drive bay in it, so there will only fit 2 * 240mm rads in

 

also, now i'm planning to leave my h80i in and just water cool my gpu, so will it still be enough for the gpu?

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I'd think so. Make sure you have the ability to turn up the rpm on your fans and you'll be fine. Asus boards come with a utility for it. I'm sure you could download something.

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I'd think so. Make sure you have the ability to turn up the rpm on your fans and you'll be fine. Asus boards come with a utility for it. I'm sure you could download something.

 

Yes, i have al suite 3 but currently it doesn't work, need to reinstall it

 

thanks for the advices

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