TomCatMucDe Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 RAZBAM are making a move on the throne of community interaction, where LNS currently sit. Is there room for two? Who will sit in whose lap otherwise? Stay tuned to find out. Razbam interaction with the community is currently unmatched and that by a mile
zerO_crash Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Ah ok, thx for clearing that up :thumbup: zerO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
JNelson Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Yes, but we were advised that they are only installed in the centerline pylon when you are carrying GBU-12s Why is this? I'd also like to know if you can carry GBU-12's in duel ejector racks like you can the Mk82 in this picture. If so it means you can have 10 GBU-12s which makes me a very happy man. I think someone used the term Paveway truck or something. Community A-4E-C
Croaker47 Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Hope we see more A-10s in the AFAC role. I might give that a try to see how it works.
jojo Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Guys, Mirage 2000 C is not A-10 or F-15E :music_whistling: Real Mirage 2000 C GBU load is this one : To this date the maximum number of GBU-12 observed on Mirage 2000 to my knowledge is this one: And I think I saw a picture of Razbam Mirage with 4 x GBU-12...and it's not that bad for this tiny jet ! Edited December 19, 2015 by jojo Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
JNelson Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Guys, Mirage 2000 C is not A-10 or F-15E :music_whistling: Real Mirage 2000 C GBU load is this one : To this date the maximum number of GBU-12 observed on Mirage 2000 to my knowledge is this one: And I think I saw a picture of Razbam Mirage with 4 x GBU-12...and it's not that bad for this tiny jet ! Um... I don't care what role it normally has I want to know if it can be a GBU truck or not. Community A-4E-C
jojo Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 You want a truck ? Take A-10C :lol: This is Formula 1 :smartass: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
JNelson Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 You want a truck ? Take A-10C :lol: This is Formula 1 :smartass: A-10 Can't do supersonic and carry Super530D Community A-4E-C
Corrigan Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Formula Dassault, more like. :) Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
Paradox Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 There's no reason at all that you wouldn't be able to drop GBU-12s from the same pylon as a mk.82. It's exactly the same thing as far as the pylon is concerned
jojo Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 There's no reason at all that you wouldn't be able to drop GBU-12s from the same pylon as a mk.82. It's exactly the same thing as far as the pylon is concerned Indeed no. The pylon needs specific point to tie special wires to deploy Paveway kit wings after launch. So, if a GBU-12 capable pylon can drop Mk-82, a Mk-82 pylon may not necessary release GBU-12. So the Mirage 2000 N you see with 4 GBU-12 have modified pylons. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Avimimus Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Any word on if we'll get new rocket pods? I'd love a CRV-7, but there are also some pretty neat French rocket pods.
Paradox Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Indeed no. The pylon needs specific point to tie special wires to deploy Paveway kit wings after launch. So, if a GBU-12 capable pylon can drop Mk-82, a Mk-82 pylon may not necessary release GBU-12. So the Mirage 2000 N you see with 4 GBU-12 have modified pylons. Oh well this is new Does the same apply to the snakeye kit?
jojo Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 I don't know, but I don't think so. High drag bombs are older than GBU and part of original aircraft's inventory. Keep in mind that GBU-XX are late addition to Mirage 2000 C RDI. And as far as I know 2015 saw first combat deployment alongside Mirage 2000D to lase target. For those who wish more GBU-12, I think that 4 is enough. You will drop them like Mk-82, in dive. So you will have to climb back for next release. You will need fuel. I tried buddy lasing on FSX with friends. M2M Mirage 2000 + VRS F/A-18E. Buddy lasing is not that easy, it needs good coordination. And with threats it's even more complicated... Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Paradox Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Having seen slow motion footage of snakeye drops they seem to be on some kind of short timer. The Paveway I GBU-12 has fixed wings (so maybe incompatible with the multi ejector racks, not sure if French airforce ever used them this early While Paveway II indeed has folding wings (obviously) triggered by a cable during the release sequence
Azrayen Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 I would also add that the GBU-12 is more lenghty than a regular Mk-82. This means specific attention to static & dynamic (separation tests) implementation. There may be CoG considerations too, and finally system capability considerations. So, GBUs on the rear-fuselage pylons? Either it wasn't tested, either it was and found not practical. AFAIK, as jojo said, max 4x GBU IRL on the 2000 (not using wing pylons, need fuel).
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