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F-15 Landing gear, hydraulics and tail hook test/demonstration. Edit I was wrong about the Gear sequence.

 

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F-15 Landing gear, hydraulics and tail hook test/demonstration. Note to Razbam please do the landing gear sequence correctly.

 

 

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To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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F-15 Landing gear, hydraulics and tail hook test/demonstration. Note to Razbam please do the landing gear sequence correctly.

 

 

 

There's a big difference in GPMs(gallons per minute) when you use a hydraulic test stand vs what the actual hydraulic pumps put out. The sequencing you are seeing is due to that, nothing more. The video is not really true to life. The mains are free-falling out of the well for about the first 5 seconds after the locks are disengaged, not sure if the exports have a time delay on hydro pressure to the actuators, but that's not how the real E models extend.

 

And by the looks of it, they are doing a system bleed on the utility system to work the air out.

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There's a big difference in GPMs(gallons per minute) when you use a hydraulic test stand vs what the actual hydraulic pumps put out. The sequencing you are seeing is due to that, nothing more. The video is not really true to life. The mains are free-falling out of the well for about the first 5 seconds after the locks are disengaged, not sure if the exports have a time delay on hydro pressure to the actuators, but that's not how the real E models extend.

 

And by the looks of it, they are doing a system bleed on the utility system to work the air out.

 

 

It looks like the A-D models have a different landing gear extend sequence than the E model.

 

:13:12

 

 

0:31

13:39

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTBI977b8UA: 10:13

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It looks like the A-D models have a different landing gear extend sequence than the E model.

 

:13:12

 

 

0:31

13:39

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTBI977b8UA: 10:13

 

 

That's a negative. Basically the exact same system, just some different names on the relay panels.

 

The export variants may be a little different, but the US C/D/E are the same.

 

Without getting too technical on the hydraulic and electrical "why", the sequence will usually go right, nose, left on the up and right, left, nose on the down...visual look of them all depending on the amount of hydro pressure and flow rate.

 

Don't know who did this or why, but this one is virtually spot on to how the real jet works.

 

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That's a negative. Basically the exact same system, just some different names on the relay panels.

 

The export variants may be a little different, but the US C/D/E are the same.

 

Without getting too technical on the hydraulic and electrical "why", the sequence will usually go right, nose, left on the up and right, left, nose on the down...visual look of them all depending on the amount of hydro pressure and flow rate.

 

Don't know who did this or why, but this one is virtually spot on to how the real jet works.

 

Did the Air Force recently change the C Model Gear extend to match the E?

 

I seen videos of USAF F-15C Lowering it landing gear in flight and the sequence is different than the E model.

 

 

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Did the Air Force recently change the C Model Gear extend to match the E?

 

I seen videos of USAF F-15C Lowering it landing gear in flight and the sequence is different than the E model.

 

 

 

No. You are trying to compare old flight test footage with the operational variants.

 

They all sequence the same. If what happened in the first video still happened, we'd have pilots writing them up for slow to extends.

 

They are all built to extend the same way...

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F-15 Landing gear, hydraulics and tail hook test/demonstration. Note to Razbam please do the landing gear sequence correctly.

 

 

These tests do not represent the correct landing gear sequence...

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No. You are trying to compare old flight test footage with the operational variants.

 

They all sequence the same. If what happened in the first video still happened, we'd have pilots writing them up for slow to extends.

 

They are all built to extend the same way...

OK thanks for the reply to the question.

Question do you happen to know what kind of incident this Eagle was involved in?

 

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OK thanks for the reply to the question.

Question do happen to know what kind of incident this Eagle was involved in?

 

 

 

A bad one?!? Haha.

 

Honestly, I dunno...looks pretty dated. Looks like someone stole the aft nose gear door where the tail number might be stenciled on.

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A bad one?!? Haha.

 

Honestly, I dunno...looks pretty dated. Looks like someone stole the aft nose gear door where the tail number might be stenciled on.

Thanks for the reply. I posted that photo and another photo of a damage Eagle earlier on the this forum thread as a sarcastic reference to F-15 damage model complaint that turned into a conspiracy theory on the forum. :D

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To post youtube videos you just need this part

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Thanks for the tip. But when ever i try to post a YouTube video on the forum I get an error were it won"t play on the forum. So I gave up trying post a video and just put a link to the video.:helpsmilie:

Edit: Disregard I fingered out how to post video.

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After searching google on when f-15e got the aim 9x. I manage to Stumble on a dot&e annual report on the aim 9x program. So I went to DOT&E web page and found the had and annual report on the aim 9x beginning from 1999 to 2015. I found that the aim 9x was integrated on the f-15e in 2015.[ATTACH]188850[/ATTACH] I also found when it was integrated on F/A-18A/F, F-15C, F-22, f-35 and f-16C/D.

 

 

Beginning in 2003 F-15C/D and F/A-C/D started receive the aim-9x. [ATTACH]188852[/ATTACH]

 

 

F/A-18E/F Started to receive the aim-9x in 2005.[ATTACH]188851[/ATTACH]

 

F-16C started to received the aim-9x in 2010.[ATTACH]188849[/ATTACH]

 

F-22 and F-35 Started to be integrated with aim 9x in 2015.

 

F-15E JUST got the capability to utilize AIM-9X with Suite 8 upgrade, which was given to operational units just this year.

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AGM-130 live fire.

 

 

 

Look like a fun weapon to employ with multi crew.

 

Unfortunately not in active use anymore, I think the frequencies it used to datalink back to the aircraft for the WSO to steer it were taken by the FCC for cellphones or something lol. I think most of the old OIF videos you saw of weapons hitting pinpoint targets are with the agm-130, since no other weapon we use gives that video feed to the aircraft. Would be a cool feature for DCS though.

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A few were dropped the first night in OIF, success rate was not that great although I wouldn’t necessarily attribut that to the weapon itself.

 

I believe there were a few dropped by the Tigers as well in the opening months of OEF, never saw weapon video of it though.

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A few were dropped the first night in OIF, success rate was not that great although I wouldn’t necessarily attribut that to the weapon itself.

 

I believe there were a few dropped by the Tigers as well in the opening months of OEF, never saw weapon video of it though.

 

I imagine not much use for it then, especially considering how accurate JDAMs can be. Even without JDAMs, GBU-24s do the job just fine. No weaponeering required in DCS because every 2000lbs class weapon does the same damage as any other 2000lbs class weapon despite impact angle, velocity, fuze delay, etc.

 

Would be cool to have some sort of weaponeering required in DCS with a basic guide in the game for how to figure out what to do against different targets, but I think that would be a bit advanced.

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I imagine not much use for it then, especially considering how accurate JDAMs can be. Even without JDAMs, GBU-24s do the job just fine. No weaponeering required in DCS because every 2000lbs class weapon does the same damage as any other 2000lbs class weapon despite impact angle, velocity, fuze delay, etc.

 

Would be cool to have some sort of weaponeering required in DCS with a basic guide in the game for how to figure out what to do against different targets, but I think that would be a bit advanced.

 

 

We weren’t GPS munition capable yet so that cuffed us a little bit. The 130 also carries the extended range due to the rocket motor on the belly so the standoff distance is better. The 130s could still have their time/place specially when you have dynamic targeting but the GBU-15 variant loses a lot of points when you compare them.

 

The E is also forced to carry only 9s on the missle rails, loses 1 or two fuel bags depending on the loadout, and needs a datalink pod on the center if you want after launch guidance. Loadout options just serve better with the GPS munitions when their suitable.

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We weren’t GPS munition capable yet so that cuffed us a little bit. The 130 also carries the extended range due to the rocket motor on the belly so the standoff distance is better. The 130s could still have their time/place specially when you have dynamic targeting but the GBU-15 variant loses a lot of points when you compare them.

 

The E is also forced to carry only 9s on the missle rails, loses 1 or two fuel bags depending on the loadout, and needs a datalink pod on the center if you want after launch guidance. Loadout options just serve better with the GPS munitions when their suitable.

 

Makes sense. Today we can carry AMRAAMS on the rails so can go with 2x2 or 3x1 loadout depending on how maintenance is feeling about offloading external fuel tanks to load a missile (AIM-9s can be loaded on the internal rail side without offloading the external tank, AMRAAMS can't.) Es aren't ever forced into different configs for bags, standard thing is two bags and the centerline open for being empty, a blu-109 bomb body (gbu-31 or gbu-24), or some SDBs.

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Makes sense. Today we can carry AMRAAMS on the rails so can go with 2x2 or 3x1 loadout depending on how maintenance is feeling about offloading external fuel tanks to load a missile (AIM-9s can be loaded on the internal rail side without offloading the external tank, AMRAAMS can't.) Es aren't ever forced into different configs for bags, standard thing is two bags and the centerline open for being empty, a blu-109 bomb body (gbu-31 or gbu-24), or some SDBs.

 

I thought I’d always see two aside from a AGM-130/15 config, but I’ve seen AOR pics with no bags and 31s loaded on wing stations and different mixes on the CFTs. Makes for a hell of a punch on the ripple release. :)

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I thought I’d always see two aside from a AGM-130/15 config, but I’ve seen AOR pics with no bags and 31s loaded on wing stations and different mixes on the CFTs. Makes for a hell of a punch on the ripple release. :)

 

A strike eagle with two bags can still carry 5 GBU-31s + 2x2 AAM... if a 4-ship of those can't get the job done, you should probably just launch a crapload of cruise missiles at the area lol. There's also been some 4-ship sorties full of SDBS (20 SDBs per jet, so 80 total, so much destruction.) Current AOR loadout is sometimes mixed for swingload stuff, such as 2x2 on the rails + 2 amraams on one side of the CFTs, with the other CFT holding JDAMS or GBU-12s. If you want to do a serious deep strike mission with strike eagles you can do a 6x2 loadout with a single bomb on centerline for the target. When integrated with 5th gen assets, the strike eagle is an insanely awesome jet.

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