waterboy31 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I am very very new to DCS, as in I have had the tf51 off the ground twice now!! My track IR should be arriving tomorrow and i am looking forward to putting in many more hours. I am trying to find out which controls are the important ones to map to my t flight hotas x. Im assuming the trim controls would be a good start, but any help from the experienced simmers out there would be greatly appreciated.
Solty Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Trim? Not really. P51 is quite stable but if u want sure. What you need is RPM/prop-pitch control, flaps, gear. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA
waterboy31 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Posted December 12, 2015 can you map the pitch control to a button (as opposed to a slider) so that it will adjust incrementally? My stick only has 1 slider and that will be for the throttle.
Tomsk Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 So used the T-Flight Hotas for ages, great stick for the money. Personally I mapped the Hat Up+Down to elevator trim, Hat Left+Right to rudder trim (used head tracking so didn't need it for views). Also mapped buttons for flaps up + down, and the Comms menu. Zoom in slow and zoom out slow, fire guns on trigger and weapon release on 'second button'. Those were the main controls I used a lot, others I mostly left to keyboard.
Blech Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Hi, You can use the default "MODIFIERS" (LAlt, LCtrl, ... ) or add joystick-buttons as "MODIFIERS" to combine them with the rest of the joystick-buttons or the POV for joystick-mapping of keyboard-commands POV 1 up ......... standard - look up POV 1 down ......... standard - look down in combination with a "MODIFIERS" - e.g. for your pitch control (if you want not to use PageUp/PageDown on the keyboard) POV 1 up + LAlt ......... "PageUp" Engine RPM Increase POV 1 down + LAlt ......... "PageDown" Engine RPM Decrease POV 1 up + JOY BTN 3 ......... "PageUp" Engine RPM Increase POV 1 down + JOY BTN 3 ......... "PageDown" Engine RPM Decrease Edited December 12, 2015 by Blech
Worther_1 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 important controls to map? Also try modifying the curve and deadzone in the 'Axis Tune' section at the bottom of the controls menu. Most people seem to prefer a small deadzone (5-10) and a modest curve (around 10-15). But it's a personal thing. Once you set up the buttons you need (flaps, gear, etc) try a flight with differing values for the above and see how it 'feels' to you. Worther_1 Worther_1 DCS Black Shark 2, A10-C, Huey, MiG-21bis, Hawk, Flaming Cliffs 3, F/A-18, Nevada Terrain.
VrValor Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Trim is important guys Also, 2 functions to map: IFF on/off so when you enter in dogfight you can switch it on the fly. Second: knee board. Third also a radio button Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk Spirit is important: let him fly in the blue sky!
VrValor Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 i'd avoid deadzones. I don't find them useful at all. Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk Spirit is important: let him fly in the blue sky!
waterboy31 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 Thanks everyone for all the replies!! I'm having some trouble mapping the trim controls to the hat switch. When I go to add a control nothing happens when I hit the hat switch. I even went into the view controls and cleared the hat controls there. Still no luck. Any suggestions? Also what is "iff" ? I know.....noob question
Blech Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Hi, The SCR-695-A IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) Radio is not operational in DCS: P-51D Mustang Manual page 97/98 I guess @VrValor mixed it up with the AN/APS-13 Rear Warning Radar (?) Manual page 95 Which trim controls ? Screenshot Are they working manually ?
VrValor Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Sorry my bad. Yes I mean the rear warning. Trim left right rudder, up and down pitch. Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk Spirit is important: let him fly in the blue sky!
VrValor Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Flashben, why? Aren't radiator controls just a on /off switch? I'll give you a smart tip to set flaps: set it on the joystick: during dogfights you will change it on the fly. Raise it to 1 or 2 during turns and you will turn faster. Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk Edited December 13, 2015 by VrValor Spirit is important: let him fly in the blue sky!
Captain Orso Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Hi Waterboy31, when I just read your first post I had to smile, thinking back to when I started out with the DCS P-51D and got my TrackIR almost a year ago :) I had to wait a while to get a good stick--Logitech Extreme Pro just isn't that great--, because I needed rudder peddles to use with a Thrustmaster HOTAS and I was waiting on Slaw Device to take up production again. From experience, for RPM control there are only two settings that I ever use, 3000 RPM and 2700 RPM. So this could easily be set to two keyboard keys and you should practically never have an issue with not having it on your HOTAS. Trim I have found is really only interesting when flying long distances and I have it set to my Hat. I actually don't even use the 6% right rudder setting on take off anymore, I just compensate with the rudder. I also use curves (Axis Tune) for all axes settings: Saturation X = 100, Saturation Y = 75, and Curvature = 25. With these settings, you cannot put any of the control surfaces to 100% of their possible, but that is also part of the solution. I read a conversation of somebody with an actual WWII P-51D pilot, who stated that you never actually never pushed the controls to any one extreme. It would be like driving down the freeway at 150 MPH and suddenly throwing the wheel over as far as it would go. Nothing good could ever come of it :doh: The 25 curvature gives you more fidelity in control, which is always a good thing, while still allowing more than enough control for agile maneuvering :joystick: Happy landings :pilotfly: BTW IFF is not actually an active radio sender. It's a transponder. When it receives a specifically coded signal at the correct frequency it will reply with it's own signal, which identifies it as "Friend". Otherwise it is silent. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
Captain Orso Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Flashben, why? Aren't radiator controls just a on /off switch? I'll give you a smart tip to set flaps: set it on the joystick: during dogfights you will change it on the fly. Raise it to 1 or 2 during turns and you will turn faster. Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk Absolutely not :P. Instead of trying to explain exactly how it works, like a picture is worth a 1000 words, so is a demonstration. Start a mission in which you start from the ramp with everything turned off. Per default water and oil radiator outlet doors are closed all the way--to keep weasels out :D. As soon as you turn the battery on you hear the whirring sound of both servos opening the doors. This is because with the switch protectors closed, the switches are forced into the Automatic position. So open the switch protectors and flick both switches down to the Off position. Now turn the battery on and push one of the radiator switches forward to Open for a second or two before releasing it to spring back to Off. As soon as you release the switch the door movement stops. Now push backwards to Close. The door servo whirs for exactly as long as you opened it until the door is completely closed stops moving. This demonstrates that the switches control moving the doors, but only for as long as they are held :thumbup: When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
VrValor Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 what could a practical use be? Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk Spirit is important: let him fly in the blue sky!
Captain Orso Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Some say that with the doors closed there is less resistance and use it in combat to have an ever so slight speed advantage. How they manage to not let the engine overheat then I have no idea. I myself am just trying not to stall in a curves while trying to get away from the guy behind me :huh: When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
waterboy31 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 Hi, The SCR-695-A IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) Radio is not operational in DCS: P-51D Mustang Manual page 97/98 I guess @VrValor mixed it up with the AN/APS-13 Rear Warning Radar (?) Manual page 95 Which trim controls ? Screenshot Are they working manually ? yes the controls work manually but i am unable to map them to my stick.
waterboy31 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Posted December 13, 2015 Hi, The SCR-695-A IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) Radio is not operational in DCS: P-51D Mustang Manual page 97/98 I guess @VrValor mixed it up with the AN/APS-13 Rear Warning Radar (?) Manual page 95 Which trim controls ? Screenshot Are they working manually ? im an idiot....i was trying to set it as an axis.....thanks for the help!
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