debolestis Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 Yes, locking nut is compatible with mine and TM tailpieces. I cannot make nut like you suggest, because of geometry. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Ranma13 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 That FFB2 adapter is awesome! Do you need to tap the M3 holes, or can the grub screws self-tap it? Also, what length of grub screws would be good to get so that the screw doesn't protrude out? Any possibility of supporting the CH Fighterstick as well? It's basically the same thing as the TM Warthog stick, but made out of plastic so it's lighter, and doesn't require as much strength to push the buttons down.
debolestis Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 Grub Screws will self tap, you need M3x5. I can make CH version but I need measurmets of CH shaft. I would recomend using FLCS or F22 grips, they are plastic Cougars. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Pinello Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 And maybe make the FFB2 adapter in difrent "extention" lengths?
debolestis Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 Of course, just say what you need. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
mrwell Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Debolestis Shapeways shop Yes, locking nut is compatible with mine and TM tailpieces. I cannot make nut like you suggest, because of geometry. Great it is compatible! I didn't mean a single nut with that shape. I meant extra piece this way, but for the tilt tailpiece with your new nut: https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=196311&share_tid=25507&share_pid=360439&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebmsforum%2Eorg%2Fforum%2Fshowpost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D360439&share_type=t Cheers
debolestis Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 Great it is compatible! I didn't mean a single nut with that shape. I meant extra piece this way, but for the tilt tailpiece with your new nut: https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=196311&share_tid=25507&share_pid=360439&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebmsforum%2Eorg%2Fforum%2Fshowpost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D360439&share_type=t Cheers Can you post a photo please, I don't want to register on that site. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 Here you go: https://imgur.com/a/xd5p1 It is not a problem, I'll try but I cannot be 100% sure that it will work straight away. I am not 100% sure on dimensions. Are you willing to risk with prototypes? - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
mrwell Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Debolestis Shapeways shop The idea is using the cougar grip with your 13° tilted tailpiece and your new locking nut. If you take the measures with all of that, it would be good. But it will be different from that picture. Something like this but tilted: I'll take the locking nut and that new piece (already have the tail). And probably more pitbuilders with FCC like me That would help a lot with any weak point when applying pressure. Cheers and thanks for your job!
debolestis Posted September 23, 2017 Author Posted September 23, 2017 The idea is using the cougar grip with your 13° tilted tailpiece and your new locking nut. If you take the measures with all of that, it would be good. But it will be different from that picture. Something like this but tilted: [ATTACH]169576[/ATTACH] I'll take the locking nut and that new piece (already have the tail). And probably more pitbuilders with FCC like me That would help a lot with any weak point when applying pressure. Cheers and thanks for your job! I'll think of something. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
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Pinello Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Of course, just say what you need. Great. What would be the extra cost of making it 12cm height? And will it be stiff/rigid, or just limp..? Edited September 24, 2017 by Pinello fix
debolestis Posted September 24, 2017 Author Posted September 24, 2017 Great. What would be the extra cost of making it 12cm height? I don't know, I'll upload it on tuesday. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted September 26, 2017 Author Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Here's an update for my FFB2 mod. I did same resistor mod like ON THIS THREAD. This is a photo from that thread, I am not the author. There are 4 pairs of 1 Ohm resistors in paralel on this PCB, so each pair is equivalent of 0,5 ohms. I soldered 8 more resistors on top of each already on PCB. It doubled the force effect. It very nice mod and now stick has enough power to handle Warthog grip. Before Warthog was falling on its nose, now it is almost cenered. Warthog grip is not perfectly centered but it it close enough, it can probably be calibrated. I could add one more resistor on top of each of 4 resistor "quads". It could probably increase power 20% but it is a risk and I am not sure if it is worth it. This mod doubled power allready. Here is Diview screenshot: With plastic grips both axis are on 50%. In next few days I'll finish the rest of the electronics, I'll post the results. Edited September 26, 2017 by debolestis - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Thadiun Okona Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Here's an update for my FFB2 mod. I did same resistor mod like ON THIS THREAD. This is a photo from that thread, I am not the author. There are 4 pairs of 1 Ohm resistors in paralel on this PCB, so each pair is equivalent of 0,5 ohms. I soldered 8 more resistors on top of each already on PCB. It doubled the force effect. It very nice mod and now stick has enough power to handle Warthog grip. Before Warthog was falling on its nose, now it is almost cenered. Warthog grip is not perfectly centered but it it close enough, it can probably be calibrated. I could add one more resistor on top of each of 4 resistor "quads". It could probably increase power 20% but it is a risk and I am not sure if it is worth it. This mod doubled power allready. Here is Diview screenshot: With plastic grips both axis are on 50%. In next few days I'll finish the rest of the electronics, I'll post the results. Neat. Roland van Roy's mod is similar, but replaces the power supplies and ends up 400% the current, which is then fed into bigger motors. http://www.simprojects.nl/ms_siderwinder_ff2_hack.htm This mod is nice for being practical though, I may use it as a stop-gap solution for my sailplane cockpit now that Condor2 is officially in beta and it's gonna be a while before I can afford the motors I need to make the beefy version.
mrwell Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I'll think of something. Thank you very much
Sokol1_br Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 It doubled the force effect. It very nice mod and now stick has enough power to handle Warthog grip. Increase the power... and the stress/wear over gears and motors. :joystick: :D Better use a low weight PLASTIC grip - F16FLCS, F22PRO, CH-16, Suncom F-15... ;)
debolestis Posted September 27, 2017 Author Posted September 27, 2017 Increase the power... and the stress/wear over gears and motors. :joystick: :D Better use a low weight PLASTIC grip - F16FLCS, F22PRO, CH-16, Suncom F-15... ;) I agree but I made mod that acts as extension, so I recoment resistor mod even if plastic grip is used. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Thadiun Okona Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Increase the power... and the stress/wear over gears and motors. :joystick: :D Better use a low weight PLASTIC grip - F16FLCS, F22PRO, CH-16, Suncom F-15... ;) MS was very conservative when they decided how much power to allow this to pull. The motors and gears are fine with the additional load and heat is a concern so they made everything beefy but it doesn't run anywhere near its limits. So long as you can keep things cool, there's little to worry about with this mod, and replacement msffii cheap enough to keep one around for spares in case something fries. The guy that did this for his extension planned on incorporating a fan in the psu since it's getting hotter under these loads, which is a sensible precaution you may want to consider as well debolestis. I agree a lower weight grip makes more sense in this case, but for performance reasons not necessarily mechanical concerns.
debolestis Posted September 27, 2017 Author Posted September 27, 2017 I probably will not add aditional cooling, let's see how long it will last. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted October 6, 2017 Author Posted October 6, 2017 Great. What would be the extra cost of making it 12cm height? And will it be stiff/rigid, or just limp..? Sorry that you had to wait but I made extended version of this adapter, it is 12 cm in total length. I don't know how stiff/rigid it will be, I haven't tested it yet, but my experience tells me that it will be stiff. You'll have to test it yourself. There has been some changes on Shapeways site, now sections in the store are supported. I organized everything and now it is much easier to navigate through the store. Save - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted October 6, 2017 Author Posted October 6, 2017 And Shapeways introduced 2 new materials: black and white premium strong and flexible. They should be same regular black or white, just with much better finish, probably more polished. That goes with double price. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Buckeye Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 I've been considering ordering either a VKB or Virpil joystick base, to which I would like to attach my current 15cm Warthog extension by Sahaj to, along with my Warthog grip. My grip and extension are obviously compatible but neither VKB or Virpil offer an adapter for the base and an extension other than their own. Do you offer an adapter for the top of the joystick base that would allow me screw my standard Warthog extension on to it? I'm away traveling but can mock up a picture of what I'm asking for when I return, if I am being unclear. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
debolestis Posted October 6, 2017 Author Posted October 6, 2017 I've been considering ordering either a VKB or Virpil joystick base, to which I would like to attach my current 15cm Warthog extension by Sahaj to, along with my Warthog grip. My grip and extension are obviously compatible but neither VKB or Virpil offer an adapter for the base and an extension other than their own. Do you offer an adapter for the top of the joystick base that would allow me screw my standard Warthog extension on to it? I'm away traveling but can mock up a picture of what I'm asking for when I return, if I am being unclear. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A far as I understand your extension should work with Virpil base but not with VKB. Unfortunately I don't have any of them, and if you need something I can make if you will make measurements. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
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