debolestis Posted October 10, 2017 Author Posted October 10, 2017 OK, only two needed to be fixed, one with afterburner and the one with dual detent. Renderers are not ready yet but models are now OK to order. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Buckeye Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 OK, only two needed to be fixed, one with afterburner and the one with dual detent. Renderers are not ready yet but models are now OK to order. Same links as in your earlier post? Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
debolestis Posted October 10, 2017 Author Posted October 10, 2017 Yes. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Buckeye Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 Yes. Alright, sounds good. I have cancelled my order from this morning and re-ordered again just now. I can PM you my order # if that would help to ensure I get the proper piece produced? Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
debolestis Posted October 10, 2017 Author Posted October 10, 2017 OK, but if you didn't recived message: Your order is en route to printers, then I think you are good. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Buckeye Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 OK, but if you didn't recived message: Your order is en route to printers, then I think you are good. It is still just in the "Processing" stage, so I should be all good. Thanks, mate :thumbup: Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
txmtb Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 I am fixing this now, good catch. But I don't know what is function of that separator, I thought it was easier to grab it with that red part. Anyway I am on it. I'm not really sure either tbh, it may have worked just fine. I noticed on the original it also had tabs on both ends. Only the detent end should have 1 if modeled off the original. Win 10 64 Pro, MSI Z390 I7-9700K @5ghz Kraken Z63, 32Gb Corsair Dominator, MSI RTX-2070, 1TB NVME 2TB SSD's, TM Warthog, Pro Rudders, OpenTrack w/ IR Clip
Baz000 Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 Maybe it is just to identify the orientation of which side has detent? On the original, only one side had detent (with handle) the other without... So if you have the side with handle pointing down then you should have the AB detent, and when it is pointing up, there is none.
txmtb Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 Maybe it is just to identify the orientation of which side has detent? On the original, only one side had detent (with handle) the other without... So if you have the side with handle pointing down then you should have the AB detent, and when it is pointing up, there is none. Kinda what I thought also. No other reason for it to be there really, plus the red coloring. Win 10 64 Pro, MSI Z390 I7-9700K @5ghz Kraken Z63, 32Gb Corsair Dominator, MSI RTX-2070, 1TB NVME 2TB SSD's, TM Warthog, Pro Rudders, OpenTrack w/ IR Clip
debolestis Posted October 11, 2017 Author Posted October 11, 2017 Something like this: Mainly for vertical movement but without losing the side movements, since we don't want to lose 2 buttons. I'm sure with your experience you can come up with better design ideas. Imagine Castle, with North and South higher or buffed, so to say. Can you tell me on which switch does it go? Save - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted October 30, 2017 Author Posted October 30, 2017 I have now springs for my Cougar gimbal. Price is 10$ for set of 4 springs. Postage is around 3$ depending on country. Springs look like in photo bellow. Material is stainless steel. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
Pinello Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Debolesis, does both: https://www.shapeways.com/product/7HQPSPLBE/locking-nut-f-15-version?optionId=63467278 https://www.shapeways.com/product/ZGV4GEZ23/locking-nut-f-16-version?optionId=63467281 ..fit on: https://www.shapeways.com/product/QDSU4NS69/force-feedback-2-to-thrustmaster-adapter-120mm?optionId=63770860 ?? Regards
debolestis Posted October 30, 2017 Author Posted October 30, 2017 Debolesis, does both: https://www.shapeways.com/product/7HQPSPLBE/locking-nut-f-15-version?optionId=63467278 https://www.shapeways.com/product/ZGV4GEZ23/locking-nut-f-16-version?optionId=63467281 ..fit on: https://www.shapeways.com/product/QDSU4NS69/force-feedback-2-to-thrustmaster-adapter-120mm?optionId=63770860 ?? Regards Yes. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
FalcoNg Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Hello debolestis, I ordered three of your detents and look forward to testing them out when they arrive next week. In addition to DCS, I also enjoy flying airliners and I was wondering if it would be practical/possible to design a warthog detent to match that of an Airbus throttle quadrant. As you can see below, the airbus has four physical detent locations ( idle/0, CL, FLX/MCT, TOGA) with a range of movement below the idle detent. Do you think given the physical space available with the warthog detent, would four detents be possible to design and be practical for use?
debolestis Posted November 1, 2017 Author Posted November 1, 2017 Hello debolestis, I ordered three of your detents and look forward to testing them out when they arrive next week. In addition to DCS, I also enjoy flying airliners and I was wondering if it would be practical/possible to design a warthog detent to match that of an Airbus throttle quadrant. As you can see below, the airbus has four physical detent locations ( idle/0, CL, FLX/MCT, TOGA) with a range of movement below the idle detent. Do you think given the physical space available with the warthog detent, would four detents be possible to design and be practical for use? I can try but you need to tell me at what percentage of total travel do you want them to start. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
FalcoNg Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Working in it. Unfortunately the airbus I'm interested in just entered closed beta but I am unable to join. I asked someone with a warthog and the beta to retrieve the percentages.
FalcoNg Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 { ( -38.0f- 0.0f/60.0f), // 0 REV ( -35.0f- 0.0f/60.0f), ( -14.0f-34.0f/60.0f), ( -11.0f-24.0f/60.0f), // 3 REV_IDLE ( -8.0f-14.0f/60.0f), ( 0.0f+ 0.0f/60.0f), // 5 IDLE ( 5.0f+45.0f/60.0f), ( 43.0f+30.0f/60.0f), ( 47.0f+30.0f/60.0f), // 8 CLB ( 51.0f+30.0f/60.0f), ( 63.0f+20.0f/60.0f), ( 66.0f+30.0f/60.0f), // 11 MCT_FLX ( 69.0f+40.0f/60.0f), ( 82.0f+20.0f/60.0f), ( 85.0f+30.0f/60.0f) // 14 TOGA }; Positions around labled entrys are the detents edges. This is a TLA degrees, you need to map this values from 0..85.5 deg or -38..85.5 if you want to use linear reverse. So this is the response I got from one of the devs for the A320. I have no idea how to decipher this info to come up with the % of travel on the warthog but I'll see what I can figure out. I'm assuming that those numbers are associated with X-Plane 11 only. If the numbers help you out, let me know. I've also received three detents from your store and all fit nice and snug and are working great: dual detent afterburner detent no detents
FalcoNg Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 If I did my math correctly the detents should be at approximately: REV 0% 16383 (Target Device Analyzer value) REV_IDLE 22% 12779 IDLE 31% 11304 CLB 69% 5079 MCT_FLX 85% 2457 TOGA 100% 0
debolestis Posted November 6, 2017 Author Posted November 6, 2017 So no detent up to 22%, then up detent up to 31 then, then up detent to 69, the up to 85 and finally up to 100. You want to lift throttle each time when you are at given percentages? I'll need to see if this is possible. I'll let you know in few days. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
FalcoNg Posted November 6, 2017 Posted November 6, 2017 So no detent up to 22%, then up detent up to 31 then, then up detent to 69, the up to 85 and finally up to 100. You want to lift throttle each time when you are at given percentages? I'll need to see if this is possible. I'll let you know in few days. Sounds correct, 100% and 0% obviously not being detents and just topping/bottoming out the range of motion. I think push through for each detent would work fine. Maybe having to lift to reach Reverse Idle would be interesting as well, provided it is possible to fit that in. As soon as I can get a copy of the A/C I'll jump on it in order to confirm the numbers.
debolestis Posted November 6, 2017 Author Posted November 6, 2017 I think Warthog grips have 5mm up/down movement, that is limitation for mod like this. We'll need to test this but I think it is doable. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted November 8, 2017 Author Posted November 8, 2017 I made that Airbus part. This is how it looks, there are detents on green area. I think it could work well except for first detent, that one really must be tested first and I am not 100% sure. You can find the part HERE. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
FalcoNg Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 You work exceptionally quick Debolestis! I have made some modifications that I think would be better suited to match the real throttle's actions. Please forgive my crude editing skills! I have modified it so that detents marked in yellow are push through similar to how you have this one set up in the center: https://www.shapeways.com/product/8ZNMV2TQV/warthog-throttle-part-center-detent?optionId=63799378 Then in order to reach Reverse Idle you'll need to lift and do slight pull back. To get out of the Reverse thrust range, you simply push through forward. Here is a video showing the detents in action during all phases of flight: Do you think it is possible in this configuration?
debolestis Posted November 9, 2017 Author Posted November 9, 2017 I made a new version of Airbus throttle part. I made corrections that you wanted, but I am not sure if we'll get those percentages. This part probably will have to be recalibrated. If you are willing to test it I'll make necessary corrections. Save - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
FalcoNg Posted November 9, 2017 Posted November 9, 2017 Looks good so far. I will be sharing your image and Shapeways store link to see if anyone that is part of the beta test is willing to pick one up and try it out. Other than that, I'll have to wait until the aircraft is released or I get lucky enough to get into the beta. Thanks for your help and I'll get back to you when there is some feedback to share.
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