Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Just curious about it...in sec 27 you can see a very noticeable vapour/smoke inside cockpit behind hud which gets even more noticeable at some other points in the video to the point it conpletely blocks hud visibility :huh:...whats that?? Take a look at my MODS here
Silver_Dragon Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 defrog? For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Shahdoh Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Chemtrails, he forgot to hit the reverse button to push it out instead of in... Silly pilot...,:music_whistling: 1
Vampyre Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Air conditioning. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
mvsgas Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) Just curious about it...in sec 27 you can see a very noticeable vapour/smoke inside cockpit behind hud which gets even more noticeable at some other points in the video to the point it conpletely blocks hud visibility :huh:...whats that?? Basically water vapor. In the F-16 (IIRC) the Environmental Control System (ECS) cool the air by getting 13 stage (in PW F-16, 7 in GE) bleed air form the engine compressing it and expanding it quickly. If the air is to humid, the system has trouble taking all the humidity out, generally speaking. Also, the filter, commonly known as the "Sock" might be dirty. Edited March 11, 2016 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted March 11, 2016 Author Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) Thanks guys, so air conditioner then...I though it should be that, but as I said, its quite disturbing at some moments...what if that happens in a dogfight???...curious...look at 9:40 sec, wtf??:D Edited March 11, 2016 by watermanpc Take a look at my MODS here
Chris1012 Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Thanks guys, so air conditioner then...I though it should be that, but as I said, its quite disturbing at some moments...what if that happens in a dogfight???...curious...look at 9:40 sec, wtf??:D A mishap not long ago occurred when the cockpit filled with fog on touchdown... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Why yes, I did just crash...
mvsgas Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) ...In the F-16 (IIRC) the Environmental Control System (ECS) cool the air by getting 13 stage (in PW F-16, 7 in GE) bleed air form the engine compressing it and expanding it quickly. This is wrong, bleed air moved a turbine and PW it 7th and 13th stage compress air (GE are 5 and 9) ..what if that happens in a dogfight???...curious...look at 9:40 sec, wtf??:D It should not happen at higher altitude and speeds, but if it does you just got bad luck AFAIK. A mishap not long ago occurred when the cockpit filled with fog on touchdown... Here is a direct link to the Accident Investigation Board (AIB) report. Having trouble posting the link. [///url]http://usaf.aib.law.af.mil/ExecSum2011/F-16C_Oshkosh_28%20Jul%2011.pdf[////url] Edited March 12, 2016 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Milli Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 Does this happen to other types of jets other than F-16's? Seems ridiculous that this happens. The above crash at the airshow is beyond belief. Thats an expensive,advanced modern jet fighter, crashing because of a steamed up window.
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted March 12, 2016 Author Posted March 12, 2016 A mishap not long ago occurred when the cockpit filled with fog on touchdown... This is wrong, bleed air moved a turbine and PW it 7th and 13th stage compress air (GE are 5 and 9) It should not happen at higher altitude and speeds, but if it does you just got bad luck AFAIK. Here is a direct link to the Accident Investigation Board (AIB) report. Having trouble posting the link. [///url]http://usaf.aib.law.af.mil/ExecSum2011/F-16C_Oshkosh_28%20Jul%2011.pdf[////url] Does this happen to other types of jets other than F-16's? Seems ridiculous that this happens. The above crash at the airshow is beyond belief. Thats an expensive,advanced modern jet fighter, crashing because of a steamed up window. Seriously guys?¿?¿?¿...I cant believe it...an enginering marvel as the f16 can go to hell just because you got bad luck and all the cockpit was filled with vapour mist from the air conditioner system?¿?¿? Wtf?¿?¿?¿...but of course, seeing how bad it can be in the 9:40 sec, I have no doubt it can be really dangerous, specially low level fast flying :doh: Take a look at my MODS here
NRG-Vampire Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 Investigators said “extreme fogging” in the cockpit... http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article4523.html
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted March 12, 2016 Author Posted March 12, 2016 Incredible!!!...the day we get the Viper from DCS:music_whistling:, I hope they model the enviromental system :D Take a look at my MODS here
mvsgas Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) Just wanted to mention, this rarely happens. I worked on F-16C block 40/42 from 1997 to 2004 and from 2008 to 2012 and I seldom saw this. I'm not sure the specific conditions for this to happen but is definitely not common. Even in places like Korea, where it is very humid all the time this did not happen every flight. Also note how it happens mostly at idle power and/or low speed. Edited March 12, 2016 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Also, the filter, commonly known as the "Sock" might be dirty. click on image to enlarge U.S. Air Force Senior Airman James Gunning, 8th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron electrical and environmental specialist assigned to Kunsan Air Base, South Korea, changes a water sock filter on an F-16 Fighting Falcon during RED FLAG-Alaska 14-3 Aug. 18, 2014, Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska. Gunning supported the aircraft which flew two sorties a day throughout the exercise. (U.S. Air Force photo by Senior Airman Peter Reft/Released) To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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