viperdogsnake Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 Leatherneck, I know you've fixed it internally for 1.5 and have pushed it on to ED to get incorporated. Have you heard anything from ED in response or a timeline on when it will be fixed. I see patch after patch released and no fix to this issue. I've got quite a few individuals in my squad who won't fly the MiG-21 until it gets patched. Any info you have would be greatly appreciated. on
BadHabit Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 What do you mean by radar performance? I know there are some issues with the the radar but nothing looks like a performance issue. There are some limitations one the vertical that will make impossible to track a target even you are looking forward exactly at him. Rather than that the saphir is an old radar. No look down shoot down capable made to track big and slow targets. The performance is fine some adjustments need to be made. Mig-21 Headbutter "These are not the bugs you are looking for..":pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My YouTube channel SPECS -AMD FX8370 8 Core Processor 4.2 ghz -GIGABYTE 970A-UD3P -GTX 1050 TI Windforce 4g -16 GB RAM -Saitek X 52 -FaceNOIRtrack - 3 point clip Red Led
viperdogsnake Posted April 22, 2016 Author Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) What do you mean by radar performance? I know there are some issues with the the radar but nothing looks like a performance issue. There are some limitations one the vertical that will make impossible to track a target even you are looking forward exactly at him. Rather than that the saphir is an old radar. No look down shoot down capable made to track big and slow targets. The performance is fine some adjustments need to be made. Mig-21 Headbutter Habit I'm very aware of the performance capabilities of the Fishbed's radar. Radar detection is dismal in the forward quarter against ALL targets. That is performance bud, not small tweaks. Our squad uses GCI cuing to get individuals in a nose on intercept (with lookup at the target) against all types of targets, so it's not look down capabilities in question. The ability to track that target nose on is huge. Thats the reason we're looking for an update from ED. Edited April 22, 2016 by viperdogsnake on
BadHabit Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 Well today there was an update. And I tested the radar. The inverted symbols are fixed and was able to track targets the problem came when I was trying to intercept a target from below with a steep climp, wasn't able to track it until very close. Mig-21 Headbutter "These are not the bugs you are looking for..":pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My YouTube channel SPECS -AMD FX8370 8 Core Processor 4.2 ghz -GIGABYTE 970A-UD3P -GTX 1050 TI Windforce 4g -16 GB RAM -Saitek X 52 -FaceNOIRtrack - 3 point clip Red Led
BadHabit Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) I am not disagreeing,I am saying, that yes there is a minor tweak they only need to make about what the radar is looking. Its actually pretty simple to get that the radar for some reason is creating blind spots in the center of it. Listen now i am not an expert I'm just flying the mig every single day form day 1. Look what I've stumbled upon: Try to replicate a situation where you know where the target is and you are pointing at it, but you can not spot him on radar. Doesn't really matter the distance just make sure you meet parameters. Then range your target with beam mode. Use the fixed net to see where the beam points and range him. Then turn normal radar mode , there he is. So i am thinking there is a relation there. I ll try to post on the bug tracker as soon as i am not to lazy. Please send me your feedback about that. Edited April 23, 2016 by BadHabit "These are not the bugs you are looking for..":pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My YouTube channel SPECS -AMD FX8370 8 Core Processor 4.2 ghz -GIGABYTE 970A-UD3P -GTX 1050 TI Windforce 4g -16 GB RAM -Saitek X 52 -FaceNOIRtrack - 3 point clip Red Led
Elwood Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 I can track targets for minutes,sometimes, then it's not easy to intercepting it, disappear soon.
Elwood Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 I feel that its looks up, from 45 up and can feel just large targets. But work just fine to drive beam rider missiles
Chimango Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 Bug still there after new patch. Planes not showing on radar beyond 12/15km. I hope it will get fixed soon. Same thing with piper not following the tracked bandit, you just get the tone but piper stays stuck in the middle. And OT; i only get the radar lock tone just when the locked plane gets inside the LA zone. Sometime ago you would get the tone as soon as you locked the target; has that changed or is it just a bug?. 666GIAP_Chimanov - My Tomcat tribute video, type on youtube browser=> "DCS F-14 Tomcat Symphony"
Vincent90 Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 About the Tone: The logic has changed slightly and is now accurate. Lock tone will vary based on direction, power of radar and distance. And yeah, still no fix for the MiG-21 radar published by ED
Chimango Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 @Vincent90: I'm aware of that comment by Cobra; but he was referring to RWR radar tone; not to SARH missile lock tone which is the one i'm talking about. 666GIAP_Chimanov - My Tomcat tribute video, type on youtube browser=> "DCS F-14 Tomcat Symphony"
spiddx Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 Same thing with piper not following the tracked bandit, you just get the tone but piper stays stuck in the middle. Do you have the option set in the MiG-21 Special tab? It's called something like "Realistic IR Missile Reticle". If this is ticked, your pipper will stay centered as the pipper following the target is not realistic. Specs: i9 10900K @ 5.1 GHz, EVGA GTX 1080Ti, MSI Z490 MEG Godlike, 32GB DDR4 @ 3600, Win 10, Samsung S34E790C, Vive, TIR5, 10cm extended Warthog on WarBRD, Crosswinds
Chimango Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 Thank you spiddx; i didn´t know that. 666GIAP_Chimanov - My Tomcat tribute video, type on youtube browser=> "DCS F-14 Tomcat Symphony"
viperdogsnake Posted April 24, 2016 Author Posted April 24, 2016 I trust they'll fix it, just being a little selfish about it with the new blue flag round being around the corner. LN has done too good of a job with their first module to let ED forget to update it. As always theres more behind the scenes were not privy too so there's likely a reason. on
Frostie Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Habit I'm very aware of the performance capabilities of the Fishbed's radar. Radar detection is dismal in the forward quarter against ALL targets. That is performance bud, not small tweaks. Our squad uses GCI cuing to get individuals in a nose on intercept (with lookup at the target) against all types of targets, so it's not look down capabilities in question. The ability to track that target nose on is huge. Thats the reason we're looking for an update from ED. Range performance is not broken, it is the stabilization of the radar that is broken. For some reason the radar stabilises on the MiGs AoA instead of the horizon this makes the supposed horizon of the radar point something like 5 or 6 degrees up. This means that anything on the nose over 10 or 15 km needs to be really high to be seen. You can test this by setting up a MiG facing an F-15 at 30km range both at say 5000m, once in the pit go radar on and enter a steep dive, the F-15 will pop up on radar at 25km until you level up again then it will disappear. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Golo Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 ...radar...whatever...broken... Yes, shows same behavior to me.
BadHabit Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 About the Tone: And yeah, still no fix for the MiG-21 radar published by ED Cobra here is talking about the rwr not the radar. "These are not the bugs you are looking for..":pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My YouTube channel SPECS -AMD FX8370 8 Core Processor 4.2 ghz -GIGABYTE 970A-UD3P -GTX 1050 TI Windforce 4g -16 GB RAM -Saitek X 52 -FaceNOIRtrack - 3 point clip Red Led
Kev2go Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 yeah hopefully this bug has been reported and is WIp fix by Leatherneck Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
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