m1tp2king Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 hi. I wish to buy a new 4K 40 inch TV for DCS black shark 2. how is the response time of such a TV ? is there anything else I should think about concerning big TV screens ? is it acceptable for gaming? should I go for a dedicated PC screen ( 27 inch ) ? any info from gamers with 4K big TV screens welcome. thanks.
TwilightZone Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) ......if you decide on a tv, also look at imput lag.....most makers dont want to show this due to the large lag number......having said that, a few have reduced the lag somewhat......here is a site that may help.... http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/video-games/input-lag?uxtv=9082 Edited April 23, 2016 by TwilightZone P-51, 190-D9, 109-K4, Spitfire MK IX, Normandy, and everything else:joystick: i7 4770K, 4.3ghz, 32gb ram, Windows-10 Pro, Z87 Exstreme4, Corsair 850w psu, Samsung Evo 1T SSD & 250 SSD, Titan-X 12gb OC, Asus ROG Swift 27"/1440p/144hz/1ms monitor, Trackir 5, TM Warthog & 10cm extension, Saitek TPM, MFG crosswind pedals
Arctic Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Why not using an 40" 4K PC Monitor? I have the Philips BDM4065UC 4K... Here's a (german) test that shows reaction time of the display, you could check the graph's. there are different settings for the reaction time, they recommend fast (Reaktionszeit "Schnell", second on the page): http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2015/test-philips-bdm4065uc-teil7.html Edited April 23, 2016 by Arctic
Nac33 Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) yikes.....:-/.....BDM4065UC 4K....http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/philips-bdm4065uc-40-inch-ultra-hd-monitor,4302-7.html Edited April 23, 2016 by Nac33 i5 4590k@3.5GHz, windows 10 pro, 2TB, 250GB sata, 16gb, Asus Z97 board, GTX 980ti oc, BEN Q XR3501 monitor, corsair 850w psu, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals, Trackir5
BitMaster Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 I would not go with a TV but with Gsync as it is almost a garanty for stutter and jitter free gaming. Asus has a few of them, Gsync and FreeSync based, from 1080p, 1440p and 2160p-4k, TN and IPS panels. Pick one that fits you ;) I am real happy with mine and Gsync, best visual experience ever since Voodoo cards ! Bit Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
HiJack Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 yikes.....:-/.....BDM4065UC 4K....http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/philips-bdm4065uc-40-inch-ultra-hd-monitor,4302-7.html I have the BDM4065UC also and it is OK for Video and flight sim. I would not buy this screen if I were playing a shooter game, then there is much better choices. But for normal flight sim it is fine and LARGE :joystick:
cichlidfan Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 ......if you decide on a tv, also look at imput lag.....most makers dont want to show this due to the large lag number......having said that, a few have reduced the lag somewhat......here is a site that may help.... http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/video-games/input-lag?uxtv=9082 That link is a good explanation input lag in general. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Arctic Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Yeah, sure, like HiJack already said. I really like it. I cannot recommend faster modes than "fast" because then you can see the ghosting. For its size, IMO its pretty good and worth the price. For shooters there are faster ones, but mostly smaller. Gsync is very nice, saw it at a friends place. It was an 27" Asus. For shooters i would recommend something like that. You can clearly see the difference already on the desktop while moving the mouse, its cool ;) Edited April 23, 2016 by Arctic
cichlidfan Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 I am also probably going to get the Phillips for my pit. I don't do anything but flight sims with it so it should be an excellent upgrade from my current 40" display. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Arctic Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 When you get it, the first thing you should do is to set DisplayPort Mode to 1.2. Mine was set to the old standard with 30FPS- took me an hour to figure out why this was the case... :D
Specter1075 Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 Yeah, sure, like HiJack already said. I really like it. Awesome! Im glad to hear it, as I was planning on getting one too. I cannot recommend faster modes than "fast" because then you can see the ghosting. Im not sure I follow you here. Do you mean there are modes in the monitor settings? Maybe that's a dumb question. (Clearly not an expert here. :))
Arctic Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Yes, its called "smartresponse" located in the monitor settings. You can leave it turned off, fast, faster or fastest... But while the response time gets smaller, ghosting gets worse. ;) Edited April 23, 2016 by Arctic
BitMaster Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 Awesome! Im glad to hear it, as I was planning on getting one too. Im not sure I follow you here. Do you mean there are modes in the monitor settings? Maybe that's a dumb question. (Clearly not an expert here. :)) Usually, the more modes/options you have the more you can mess it up :) If you leave ALL THOSE OPTIONS activated that you payed for, you will likely not have a nice gaming experience. If you turn them down the response is faster but the picture quality suffers. It's a trade you have to make for using a TV as a PC monitor. BTW, Asus has a nice 37" Gsynced 4k IPS "GAMING MONITOR"...... that wont need to be forced into modes your eyes dont like ;) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Specter1075 Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 Thanks BitMaster! In my case, the 40'' screen referenced is the Philips 4065UC, which is a monitor. I decided against going the TV route based on what I had read elsewhere.
HiJack Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 Just be aware of the fact that you need a powerful GPU (or two in SLI) to run 4K in Maxed out DCS settings! I have one AMD GPU and I run all maxed out fairly good but some tearing if moving head to fast, it does not bother me that much.
triarii Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 most 4Ks are iffy for gaming. look for a monitors that is under 10ms response time and supports display port@60fps If it is only HDMI then it is only 30FPS and not all 4ks can run the Display port mode that allows 60fps so read carefully.
cichlidfan Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 If it is only HDMI then it is only 30FPS and not all 4ks can run the Display port mode that allows 60fps so read carefully. HDMI 2.0 supports 4k at 60Hz. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
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