Lorenzo.D Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Ok i can contact atc...only the jtac is not fuctional. .. My error in me Inviato dal mio ASUS_Z00LD utilizzando Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I just try in Nevada and I have can destroy the targets, awesome!!! :thumbup: Should also work on the Caucasus map. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunski34 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 shoot on 4 tries... why? I tried on Nevada.... JTAC and lasing.... M2000C with GBU-12, I hit 1 on 4 tries... and the GBU overstep the target... I don't know exactly why... JTAC said egress South so I came from the North (15000feets)... the Jtac was on the west of the targets, so JTAC lased from west to east. I put CCRP cross just before the target zone.... Just one shot on four tries... Is there Something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunski34 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 For L/L coordonates with JTAC here's a Mod : http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=172728 Be careful, coordonates are the barycenter of the group if the group has several vehicles ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunski34 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Ok but if there's only one vehicle in target group, the coordinates given by JTAC are the unit coordinates !! It's Strange I think there's a bug !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Does this also happen on Caucasus? Designating enemy unit for CCRP works just fine for me there. The GBU-12 always picked up the laser and destroyed the target. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunski34 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Ok ... can you tell me how to do... So where do you put the CCRP cross relative to the target ? how is your flight direction relative to JTAC -> target direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emko Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 When lased, it does not really matter that much. A yard here or there ... the bomb is always precise (well, in my case, only the GBU-12 caught laser, the other didn't ... may be it's a bug, may be there's something wrong between chair and keyboard). You can even see videos on youtube where a guy just eyballs the drop point, not bothering with CCRP. Putting unit coordinates into the INS and then putting CCRP mark near the waypoint worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_1stVFW Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 When lased, it does not really matter that much. A yard here or there ... the bomb is always precise (well, in my case, only the GBU-12 caught laser, the other didn't ... may be it's a bug, may be there's something wrong between chair and keyboard). You can even see videos on youtube where a guy just eyballs the drop point, not bothering with CCRP. Putting unit coordinates into the INS and then putting CCRP mark near the waypoint worked for me. Should work well, only thing to watch out for for longer flights is your IN drift. It can throw your ins point pretty far off. If you can see the target or know where to put the CCRP mark, it won't matter. But watch out for that. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T707A using Tapatalk Aurora R7 || i7K 8700K || 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s || 2TB M.2 PCIe x4 SSD || GTX 1080 Ti with 11GB GDDR5X || Windows 10 Pro || 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2667MHz || Virpil Warbird Base || Virpil T-50 Stick || Virpil MT-50 Throttle || Thrustmaster TPR Pedals || Oculus Rift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunski34 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 yes perhaps it's a bug of ... myself. For me the GBU have to "see" the lase I think. Of course JTAC lasing the target with precision. When I try, on 4 tries, 1 shoot... INS drift no (I don't think so), the flight is short for testing.... I saw YouTube videos but all are old, before latest release (08/19/16). Well I will try again... hope I understand why I have the problem.... With a JTAC and A10C, it's always a good shoot !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emko Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) INS drift could be a problem for long flights, depends on what kind of INS it is (dopler radar, laser gyro, mechanical gyro ... ?) and how well it's simulated or whether it's possible to realign it during flight (e.g. like civilian airliners can use DME stations). I'm too lazy to look it up in the manual right now :-) . But e.g. in the Gazelle, there's not any noticeable difference between land and sea regime of its doppler-radar based INS and I haven't noticed any big drift yet even during 50km flight over water when I forgot to change the regime to sea... And yes, the one who points a laser marker to your target needs to have a direct line of sight. Laser is just a light beam. Even if the lasers used in DCS have a wave length which is outside of human eye visible spectrum, it's a light beam. You can not lase something which is behind a building/hill and you don't see it. That's why A-10C (if it can serve as AI JTAC) can be better option in a hilly terrain. Or you can use a HMMV which is invisible on map, invulnerable, ROE is set to "None" and is invisible for enemy AI. You can move it dangerously close to enemy units to direct line of sight and it can lase them. The GBU has to see the beam as well but you can drop it first and then turn on the laser, it works as well. Edited August 30, 2016 by emko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomdeplume Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Of course JTAC lasing the target with precision. When I try, on 4 tries, 1 shoot... INS drift no (I don't think so), the flight is short for testing.... If you keep having problems, I would suggest posting a track of you trying it, preferably from an air-start to keep the track as short as possible. You might also find it useful to just watch the weapon fall (F6) after you release it - it might then be obvious if it's overflying the target and never picking up the laser spot, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_1stVFW Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Alright, after doing some testing, I've come to this conclusion. In the Mirage level CCRP bomb release of a GBU-12 being lased will miss the target more than it will in a dive release. Last night a friend and I released probably 12 GBUs in a level delivery, none impacted the target. Today, I tried dive CCRP releases at around 20 degree dive angles and scored 4/4 hits with 75% kill (the first one I had a radio SNAFU and caused a missed) Track and TACVIEW attached. I'm just curious, guys that are having issues hitting the target, can you try dive releases and see if that buys you a better hit rate? TACVIEW TRACK Aurora R7 || i7K 8700K || 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s || 2TB M.2 PCIe x4 SSD || GTX 1080 Ti with 11GB GDDR5X || Windows 10 Pro || 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2667MHz || Virpil Warbird Base || Virpil T-50 Stick || Virpil MT-50 Throttle || Thrustmaster TPR Pedals || Oculus Rift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunski34 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Thank you for the information... I will try.... Thanks ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Rindvieh Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I had the same Problem. After about 20 gbu´s I´ve found my issue: CCRP in a level flight doesn´t work well. You have to dive a bit. A good height, good speed and it will work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) I had the same Problem. After about 20 gbu´s I´ve found my issue: CCRP in a level flight doesn´t work well. You have to dive a bit. A good height, good speed and it will work! Maybe that is why I had no problems. I just made a quick test on three targets and didn't bother with a correct and leveled ingress and every bomb was a direct hit :D Edited September 1, 2016 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Rindvieh Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Maybe that is why I had no problems. I just made a quick test on three targets and didn't bother with a correct and leveled ingress and every bomb was a hit :D maybe it´s sometimes better to ignore the theory and be sloppy :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlaxoxo Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Flight model for GBU-12's ain't great and sometimes it takes along time for them to point the nose down So if you're bombing in level flight or dropping a bomb in a climb you need to mark like 1 - 2 miles in front of the target [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlaxoxo Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 This is how I use CCRP atm and it hits every time [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hi all, I just don't get it. I have tried 20 times, following the suggestions AND the instructions of CHUCK TO THE LETTER, the gbu - 12's with the Mirage almost never hit the target. With the F-5 I do exactly the same, and I always hit, no problem at all! Both missions included. HELP!!!! :cry: Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemballa974 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Recently I can't get the GBU-12 to hit the target, it simply ignores the laser. I think something is broken with the JTAC, maybe we do something wrong with the mission editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHeN Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 still works fine for me [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Hi. If something were broken with the JTAC then it would not work with the Tiger..... Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Recently I can't get the GBU-12 to hit the target, it simply ignores the laser. I think something is broken with the JTAC, maybe we do something wrong with the mission editor. And you are sure that you have the right Laser code set?. So the Bombs and the Jtac use the same laser code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Well, the mission is the same as with the tiger, I only change the plane. But tell me, where would you change / set that laser code? Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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