How to design cockpit?

[Red Hammer]

You see that guy Vekkinho have designed F-18 cockpit himself?

Can anyone teach me how to do it?

 

I am try to collect enough data for J-10.

But there is a problem that J-10's MFD is too different to another in the lock on. It can be used as a GPS map system.

and the missile performance, PL-12(SD-10) has 38 maxium G, 4 mach max speed, and the model, I don't how to made them.

 

Is there any one kind enough to teach me?

[Red Hammer]

And the cockpit has to be the 3D, because there is no picture which is big or clear enough to made into the game.

[Skwurl]

I was wondering the same thing...

[Red Hammer]

I have got enough data to design it, wait and see.

After I learn how to do it, that will be so much for the Russia air superior.

Ha, Ha, Ha!

[Shaman]

don't be so sure of that, but whatever

[Red Hammer]

well, how do you against a fighter like this:

 

Radar range 110 km

40~60% stealth

 

can attack 4 target in the same time

 

with PL-12 missile, it have a range of 70km and max G up to 38G

 

Helme targeting system has a angle of 120

 

Ha!Ha!Ha!

[britgliderpilot]

well, how do you against a fighter like this:

 

Radar range 110 km

40~60% stealth

 

can attack 4 target in the same time

 

with PL-12 missile, it have a range of 70km and max G up to 38G

 

Helme targeting system has a angle of 120

 

Ha!Ha!Ha!

 

Let us state once again, for the record, that none of these things depend on the 3D model of the aircraft you are flying.

 

They depend on the coding of the game - which we still can't alter.

[knellknell]

well, how do you against a fighter like this:

 

Radar range 110 km

 

At least half of the SU27 radar range ....

 

40~60% stealth

Means nothings, the plane is stealth or not, it s a design matters,

 

can attack 4 target in the same time

At least the same than all modern fighters now.

 

with PL-12 missile, it have a range of 70km and max G up to 38G

The range without altitude means nothing. ( For example an AIM120 at 40000Fts with a plane flying a M2.4 against a target flying at M2.4 should something like 70 NM ( twice 70 km ) range )

The MaxG is the low standart for a modern missile? And the only one important thing is to know tha MaxG at the end of the course.

 

Cheers :)

 

 

 

 

Ha!Ha!Ha!

 

Hahahaha too :)

[Vekkinho]

You see that guy Vekkinho have designed F-18 cockpit himself?

Hm, I didn't design it all by myself, I'd be more precise to say that I only imported it into LO.

 

It overwrites default cockpit textures of SU-33 with new ones from F/A-18C. The only thing that bothers me is 3D cockpit model, so I'm into discovering and editing arguments needed for proper F/A-18C cockpit.

 

 

J-10 that you talk about is Multirole Fighter (MFA) that is nothing but a cross between F-16 and IAI Lavi. They share same panels (like dorsal fin and nose) and RCS shouldn't differ much from the F-16 RCS. Fuselage is rather 'fat' in the middle (it's housing avionics and fuel) so RCS might be even larger than what we expected. Planes like Flankers and Eagles stand one purpose only - Air Superiority Fighters (ASF) so encountering J-10 shouldn't be a problem...

 

You asked in one of the previous threads 'Why don't we have R-27EA with Flankers?!'

 

Let me tell you.

 

We don't have it because it was designed with support of avionics from Su-27SM while we still fly Su-27P here in LOFC. Su-27S or SK supports also a R-77 but we don't have it here because of the same reason...

 

So be politely patient and ED might grant us with newer Su-27 model!

 

Enjoy!

[Alfa]

For the 117th time - the Su-27 version currently depicted in Lock-on is the Su-27S.

 

The only differnce between the Su-27P and Su-27S is that the latter can deploy unguided air-to-ground ordinance(free-fall bombs, rockets and clusters), while the former is strictly air-to-air only.

 

The Su-27S and Su-27SK is the same aircraft - the latter is the export designation for the former.

 

The R-27AE was a proposal to fit an active-radar seeker on the long burn version of the R-27 missile - this proposal was rejected by Russian MoD and never put into production because:

 

a). they wanted to go for the more modern and agile R-77 design instead.

 

b). during the Soviet era Vympel(who designed the R-27 missile) resided in what is now Ukraine. After the break-up of the Soviet Union the design part moved to Russia while the manufacturing part remained in Ukraine. The proposal for the R-27AE was made by the Ukrainian manufacturing part of the company....i.e. by a company of a foreign country and apparently Russia has some rather strict laws about importing weapons systems.

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Crowbar]

Well... I am kinda tired of your posts, so here I reply:

Radar range 110 km

Is that nominal radar range or effective tracking range for target of certain RCS?

If it's nominal than early AN/APG-63 radar had the range of 100 nm (185 km) so nothing really exciting :dontgetit:

If it's tracking range than what kind of target does it track at that range?

New AN/APG-63(v)3 radar can track a target of RCS = 1 m² at 144 km.

40~60% stealth

What do you mean by that? That the plane you are talking about is 40~60% stealth? Wow... :doh: Than it's not stealth at all :megalol:

can attack 4 target in the same time

Another 'wow'... For AN/APG-63(v)3 it's 20 targets...

Ha!Ha!Ha!

:doh:

[Pilotasso]

^^^^20? what about the missiles for that? :lol:

[Red Hammer]

You see that guy Vekkinho have designed F-18 cockpit himself?

Hm, I didn't design it all by myself, I'd be more precise to say that I only imported it into LO.

 

It overwrites default cockpit textures of SU-33 with new ones from F/A-18C. The only thing that bothers me is 3D cockpit model, so I'm into discovering and editing arguments needed for proper F/A-18C cockpit.

 

 

J-10 that you talk about is Multirole Fighter (MFA) that is nothing but a cross between F-16 and IAI Lavi. They share same panels (like dorsal fin and nose) and RCS shouldn't differ much from the F-16 RCS. Fuselage is rather 'fat' in the middle (it's housing avionics and fuel) so RCS might be even larger than what we expected. Planes like Flankers and Eagles stand one purpose only - Air Superiority Fighters (ASF) so encountering J-10 shouldn't be a problem...

 

You asked in one of the previous threads 'Why don't we have R-27EA with Flankers?!'

 

Let me tell you.

 

We don't have it because it was designed with support of avionics from Su-27SM while we still fly Su-27P here in LOFC. Su-27S or SK supports also a R-77 but we don't have it here because of the same reason...

 

So be politely patient and ED might grant us with newer Su-27 model!

 

Enjoy!

 

 

First, J-10A is a air-superiour fihgter (it may only against groud unit by LG bomb). The MFA you were talking about is J-10B.

 

And according to the PLANC, J-10 was special design to against the threat from the Japanese F-15J and F-2. That is why all J-10 are station in the Nanjin air base. I think you are under restmate China's skill and ambition. the Russia was a Super-Power in the cold war, not now.

Acording to what you are saying that I can guess you born and live in the ex-Soviet area.

 

And I don't think ED is going to add any newer model of Su-27 for us. Unless sun rise from the west.

By the way, just tell me how to make it.

[Pilotasso]

BTW the J-10 is not based on the LAVI, IMHO thats a myth that comes from the failed israeli A-50 deal. If anything its a follow on continuation developent from a russian plane that derived from a highly modifyed mig-21 experiment without tail and chin intakes. Someone posted a pic of it on a thread here long ago. It resembles much more to the J-10 than the LAVI and it makes sense because chinese have always based on russian technology to build airframes.

[Red Hammer]

BTW the J-10 is not based on the LAVI, IMHO thats a myth that comes from the failed israeli A-50 deal. If anything its a follow on continuation developent from a russian plane that derived from a highly modifyed mig-21 experiment without tail and chin intakes. Someone posted a pic of it on a thread here long ago. It resembles much more to the J-10 than the LAVI and it makes sense because chinese have always based on russian technology to build airframes.

 

 

You are talking about ancient history. China give up russian ideas after J-8.

And if you don't have access to the PLANC, you'd better be quiet when I'm talking.:lol: And you'd better know where does Russian Mig-1.44 come from.

[Pilotasso]

You are talking about ancient history. China give up russian ideas after J-8.

And if you don't have access to the PLANC, you'd better be quiet when I'm talking.:lol: And you'd better know where does Russian Mig-1.44 come from.

 

Is that a fact? F-7MG, FC-1, J-11 rings a bell? The fact that its announced that they are built on mig-21/Su-27 technology powered by russian RD-33 engines was just kiding?

 

BTW given that fact you are not getting many friends on these boards should have served as a hint not downplay my freedom of speach, not even joking.

Better for you not say much about this or else you might be "invited" to pay a visit to a Maoist re-education camp. :P

[Red Hammer]

J-11 is a lisenced copy, it is not a design, FC-1 is a export thing. we don't use it ourself.

 

And the thing you are saying is too big for a little man like you. Why don't you came out too say it.

And the way you are thinging about Maoist re-education camp, if you dare too attack my motherland again, I think it would be nessery for me to contact your embessy to send you to the personality re-education camp.

[Pilotasso]

Not saying much about your motherland per se, just saying after seeing you atitude over here you have no face to talk down into me. You have much yet to learn. When you come here big and bad then acusing me of provoking you from 8000 miles at the confort of my home while your doing the same isnt exactly being coherent with yourself either.

 

I was the only one to defend you on the other thread but after this I take it back. You deserve it.

 

BTW Im not afraid of you or anybody else, and if you study a bit of my national history too you would see being intimidated is not something coded on my genetics, not that I would bother going down that level anyway. If you resort to these anti-social tactics to sort your problems, all I can say is that I pitty you.

[Red Hammer]

BTW Im not afraid of you or anybody else, and if you study a bit of my national history too you would see being intimidated is not something coded on my genetics, not that I would bother going down that level anyway. If you resort to these anti-social tactics to sort your problems, all I can say is that I pitty you.

 

You mean I am scare of you?!! Ha! HA! Ha!

 

Who do you think you are?

 

I think you school is the one should teach you world history.

[britgliderpilot]

the thing you are saying is too big for a little man like you. Why don't you came out too say it.

And the way you are thinging about Maoist re-education camp, if you dare too attack my motherland again, I think it would be nessery for me to contact your embessy to send you to the personality re-education camp.

 

OK.

 

This guy's funny :D

[Shaman]