lazduc Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Guys, I finished my latest computer. I7-6700K, 2-1080, all ssd, one M2 for OS and some games that need this superfast access. I have not dwn/ld any of the DCS modules yet. I have purchased most. I also purchased the Oculus Rift and a 49" UHD 4K Sony TV. Response time and lag time are exceptional. I have installed other gaming software. I want to down load all the modules and DCS world. I've waited this long so I don't care if I have to wait longer for stable builds. I keep reading about problems with the different modules when a new build is released. Seems that some of the third party modules have problems after the new build is released. I have asked in another post, which modules/builds have bugs that have not been addressed and cause that module to be difficult to play. The problems stated by forum members seems to indicate a lot of time must be spent in getting many of the modules and DCS world to run without crashing or shuddering or other anomalies that distract enough so the playing time is limited... As I mentioned years ago, I do not want to spend hours trouble shooting any problems with this software. Question.....should I wait until 2.5 is released? And when it is released will it be stable or will it be an alpha release and all the third party modules must make changes to accommodate the hopefully stable build? Seems like all the third party developers have to play catch up when ED releases a new build. I have purchased almost all of the modules as time has worn on as I waited for first, the new engine, sli support, fixes, 2.0 then 1.5 just too support this gamming series. As enticements have come up to keep my enthusiasm going, I find development times far exceed mentioned expectations. It seems like this software is always in a state of flux. I would like to load this game in full with everything I have purchased onto a separate ssd. But I do not want to activate this series until it is mostly stable. ( When 2.5 shows up) I will then decide which computer I will mount this drive into. I believe that if I install now , I will not be able to move it to another computer. So I just want to download everything onto this drive without installing it.....is this possible? I picked up 6-16gb flash drives. Can I down load the modules separately to these drives....then later load them to dcs world environment? I appreciate your respectable opinions. :thumbup: Laz :D
cthulhu68 Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Installing on one computer then migrating to another is what can cost you an activation so you want to avoid that. Modules are downloaded and installed through a module manager so you cant keep them separate. I would recommend starting with 1.5 Caucasus version since training, campaign, and most missions are there and it will just be an update to 2.5(no activation loss). I'd hold off on NTTR map and 2.0 version at this point unless Red Flag Campaigns interest you. Waiting to start with a clean 2.5 install is your call. Edited October 3, 2016 by cthulhu68
cichlidfan Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) What is the point of downloading, if you have no plans to use anything until v2.5 comes out? By that time, you will need to download so much new material that much of your original download will be overwritten anyway. Your best bet is to do nothing until v2.5 has been out of beta for a while, and you consider it stable. Of course, by then, you might want to upgrade your machine again. EDIT: You can, of course, download and install everything without activating but, again, what would be the point. Edited October 3, 2016 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Art-J Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 ED doesn't provide separate installation packages for individual modules anymore, so I don't think the trick with flash drives is possible. You can only install the whole thing on some other computer with about 100 gigs of disk space available, not running and activating anything there, then move the folder to a new platform and do the first activation. HOWEVER... As mentioned above, by the time 2.5 comes, many gigabytes will have to be downloaded again - maybe not for the aircraft, as their updates will take a couple GB at most (based on recent patching experiences), but reworked Caucasus, plus revised Nevada will most likely require two-digit figure downloads. Also, keep in mind, that, as You noticed, the sim has been in constant flux. It's been obvious that every patch fixes a few things while breaking few others at the same time. That applies both to ED-made and 3rd-party-made content. That's how it was, that's how it is, I'll bet that's how it will always be. Other sim platforms are similar in this regard, even the P3D with all the budget and 3rd parties behind it. I'm not saying there's no point in waiting for something more fleshed-out in flight sims biz, but frankly, it can easily turn into a "woman waiting for a perfect man" scenario, if You know what I mean. Real game-crashing DCS patches (like the last-but-one for MiG-21 owners) do happen rarely, though, and get hot-fixed fast. Non-crashing, but serious and annoying bugs (like radar affecting fps in Mrage 2000) tend to stay with us somewhat longer, but since they don't affect all planes, You can fly the "good" ones instead for a while. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
lazduc Posted October 4, 2016 Author Posted October 4, 2016 I understand from what is said, when 2.5 is finally released it will be in an alpha state....with another lengthy wait between alpha-beta and finally a somewhat stable release...probably called 3.5 or something....and in hindsight, realistically, will be several years at least. Hopefully more third party aircraft and maps will be available by then. So you are correct, Cichlid, several generations of hardware will pass-by. I just do not want to load everything and spend hours trying to get all the modules I have paid for ( about 600.00) to run. So I will just wait.....Its what I am use to with this software. The modules or should I say titles I play are the lock-on series and their box versions that I acquired. (P-51, A-10C, Black Shark) I have purchased other flight simulator software that I enjoy and have also enjoyed several space sims. I have recently had eye surgery so cannot use the Oculus rift but am looking forward to using it in several more weeks when my eyes heal. Thanks for your information and comments. Laz
Art-J Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 It's Your call, but You seem to have a bit overdramatic view of current state of DCS. The only thing that requires spending a few hours after installation of multiple modules from scratch to make them work would be - controls setup. And that's something You will not avoid, no matter if the sim is in stable or unstable version. After that, most of the aircraft at the moment offer sufficient functionality for many hours of entertainment in my opinion. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
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