ZHeN Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 The Tornado ADV was turned into an excellent interceptor. Keep in mind interceptor and dogfighter are two different things. of course I'm keeping that in mind - I'm russian, we had our Mig-31 for intercept missions. and it's WAY much more competitive for those missions than Tornado ADV [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrayen Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I think he only mentioned that the ejector seat was not french made as the rest of the A/C. You're probably right indeed :) But then, a precision should be made: The seat is branded MB but is also french made by the SEMMB (a joint venture between MB and SAFRAN): http://www.semmb.com/fr/content/mk10 SEMMB: Société d’Exploitation des Matériels Martin Baker, meaning (more or less) Martin Baker's Devices Operation/Exploitation Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fer_Fer Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 of course I'm keeping that in mind - I'm russian, we had our Mig-31 for intercept missions. and it's WAY much more competitive for those missions than Tornado ADV To be honest, the Mig 31 and F-14 are essentially a class apart. unrelated Also from what i understood, the Tornado ADV was rather suited to the role of interceptor, as the primary threat to the British isles during the cold war came from Soviet long range bombers (feel free to correct me on this) making endurance and acquisition of targets the most important features, rather then rate of climb or agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 To be honest, the Mig 31 and F-14 are essentially a class apart. unrelated Also from what i understood, the Tornado ADV was rather suited to the role of interceptor, as the primary threat to the British isles during the cold war came from Soviet long range bombers (feel free to correct me on this) making endurance and acquisition of targets the most important features, rather then rate of climb or agility. Yes, but the problem was that they had nothing else for air defense role. So they had Tornado ADV, well suited for CAP and BVR engagement, but would struggle against other fighters. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostie Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Yes, but the problem was that they had nothing else for air defense role. So they had Tornado ADV, well suited for CAP and BVR engagement, but would struggle against other fighters. Towards the end of the 20th century and beyond the F3 had become a very capable and seriously upgraded fighter. Any fighter carrying AMRAAM has the advantage against any fighter not carrying it, add in JTIDS and ASRAAM and you have a very effective tactical fighter. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Towards the end of the 20th century and beyond the F3 had become a very capable and seriously upgraded fighter. Any fighter carrying AMRAAM has the advantage against any fighter not carrying it, add in JTIDS and ASRAAM and you have a very effective tactical fighter. Yep, but everybody was switching to Fox 3 by then :smilewink: Between Tornado F3 and Mirage 2000-5 I choose Mirage. And during Cold War, no L16, only Skyflash and Sidewinder. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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