Can any one here please teach me how to avoid missile like AI does!!

[Red Hammer]

It took me fly supersonic and high G to avoid missile.

But AI always avoid missile in the low speed and low G. Why?

 

But the way, there is one question to ask real pilot, in the real life, how far can you see missile(no tail smoke) with your eyes and how far can you see a plane (small like F-16) with your eyes. I want to know this because I want to know if its against reallity to turn on the Label.

[SuperKungFu]

Actually, lower speed (not supersonic) is better IMHO to dodge missiles, because you are more maneuverable- this makes the missile that’s tracking you to change its directory to a greater degree so it looses momentum. It just takes practice, make sure you go through the training videos that shows you’re the different tactics like the tactical break, the snake, barrel role...etc. If you are going supersonic, your turn radius is greater, even though you are pulling high G’s, you are not as maneuverable and the missile doesn’t really have to change its directory that much to get you. I usually barrel roll and that causes the missile to change its directory so much that it looses all momentum by the time it gets to me. As for seeing a missile, I’m not a real life pilot but you should not try to visually acquire the missile because by that time, it will be too late.

[Red Hammer]

I’m not a real life pilot but you should not try to visually acquire the missile because by that time, it will be too late.

 

 

Thanks, you are a life saver. but sorry about my pool English, what does that mean? What too late?

 

And in a low speed, I alway bleed speed and offen max AOA.

And do you have any data about French's MICAs? it is harder to avoid than the AIM-120.

 

And what does IMHO mean?

[SuperKungFu]

if you try to visually acquire the missile, you are playing a very dangerous game because by the time you can see it, it will be too close for you to do anything about it, that is why it would be too late if you act then.

 

When i said low speed, i said (not supersonic), meaning that go at a certain speed, that's a bit higher than your corner velocity (this will depend on the weight and type of your aircraft) but it still gives you enough speed so you can move around without bleeding off too much causing you into a stall or max AOA.

 

Sorry, i don't have any info on about French's MICAs

 

IMHO- is short for "In my humble opinion" i said this because I'm not an expert so that means what i say might not be true. I said it because i believe this is the right concept. This gives me room to be corrected.

[Kuky]

Best speed for evading missiles is around 750-800 Km/h. Aything more and you can't maneuver much at all and you're only pulling too many G's, you black out and that becomes very easily the end of you because you loose all the situational awareness. by the time you recover you're a gonner. Also anything quite lower than that and you way too low on energy, in most cases also being the end of you.

 

By the way, it's also not favourable to pull to many G's. If you do you only tire the pilot very quickly becoming less durable in sustaining G's, getting into Blackout with less and less G's. This way you also loose energy very quickly becoming a sitting duck to incomming missiles.

 

Also very important (gees what isn't when it comes to this) is knowing where the missile is coming from so you know how to posittion yourself in respect to it. In most cases you won't see it so always keep an eye on your EWR.

 

Takes a lot of practice and excellent situation awareness... and to know when to bugg out and not push your luck ;)

 

But look, if it was so easy to learn and know all this I guess it wouldn't take real pilots many years of training... not to mention it takes many years of actuall flying exprience and nerves of steel to be in and survive real life air combat...

[159th_Viper]

.... I want to know this because I want to know if its against reallity to turn on the Label.

 

IMRO it is not a bad idea nor "against reality" to have the labels turned on when you are getting acquainted with the dynamics and gameplay of the simulation. It will no doubt help you to become more confident more quickly as you avoid more missiles hurled at you by the AI (thankfully usually only one at a time). I would however strongly advocate that you do not rely too heavily on labels within the simulation to give you an indication of Impending Doom:smilewink: as that to a certain extent does detract from the "reality" of the experience.

 

At the end of the day a little "HELP" will go a long way to boost your confidence in your abilities (did mine) and so increase your threat response time - as stated in the thread with a lotta practice your situational awareness will increase to such an extent that you will no doubt become fed-up with labels and be fine without them altogether:)

[Red Hammer]

Thank you guys.

Guess what? yesterday, I fight with 2 F-15. By the time I kill one, my wing took a short. So just 1 vs 1. He was on my tail, I had a IAS of about 740km/h, and I was just keeping doing the small roll. Ah ha, he's 4 Sparrow and 1 AIM-120 fly right pass me.(I did not sleep for this) Then his radar does not showing on my RWR, he must out of missils, so I turned back (because I don't have a IR tracker, so by the time I launch R-73, He had launched sindwinder, so let's call it a draw).