Slight deadzone in cyclic

[deanbrh]

Hi,

 

Does this FM have a slight deadzone in the cyclic action? There's an area of non-input and then suddenly it responds abruptly (as we all know) once you leave the center deadzone on the cyclic.

 

I'm using a pro-flight trainer lynx cyclic, which hasn't a deadzone, so it's not the stick.

[Rogue Trooper]

The FM no, It accelerates fast and hard with my stick input, I set my system up for the smallest of centre stick movement.

Are you sure there is no hard ware or software dead zone?

Edited January 20, 2017 by Rogue Trooper

[SixMarbles]

Yes, this is noticeable. From a hover, look down at your stick and you will notice movement of the in-game cyclic for a couple millimeters with exactly zero pitch/roll on the helicopter. I have tested this extensively with HOTAS warthog, so you may be sure there is no hardware deadzone. Also, when pitch, roll or yaw rate approach zero, the helicopter seems to 'lock' the current pitch, roll or yaw rate at zero. This is easily tested with pedals. I am using MFG crosswind. Once the correct antitorque is applied to completely neutralize your yaw rate, significant pedal movement is needed to "break out" of zero yaw. The same is true of pitch and roll.

[David OC]

I have the Gazelle setup like Rogue Trooper.

 

When I started out I had quite a bit of curve on the stick with no dead zone added, if you add too much curve this can feel like a dead zone, now I only use and find it better to use a tiny little bit of a curve, must be getting used to the sensitivity and flight model.

 

Now if I think of flowing in a hover left she will go left, just leaning on the stick.

 

CH fighterstick and pro throttle.

Edited January 25, 2017 by David OC

[Fishbreath]

Yes, this is noticeable. From a hover, look down at your stick and you will notice movement of the in-game cyclic for a couple millimeters with exactly zero pitch/roll on the helicopter. I have tested this extensively with HOTAS warthog, so you may be sure there is no hardware deadzone. Also, when pitch, roll or yaw rate approach zero, the helicopter seems to 'lock' the current pitch, roll or yaw rate at zero. This is easily tested with pedals. I am using MFG crosswind. Once the correct antitorque is applied to completely neutralize your yaw rate, significant pedal movement is needed to "break out" of zero yaw. The same is true of pitch and roll.

 

Watch the autopilot/SAS needles at the same time, or alternately, turn off the pitch/roll/yaw SAS channels. It may be that you have to push past the SAS before your inputs start mattering. Just a guess.

[SixMarbles]

Watch the autopilot/SAS needles at the same time, or alternately, turn off the pitch/roll/yaw SAS channels. It may be that you have to push past the SAS before your inputs start mattering. Just a guess.

 

Unfortunately this phenomenon occurs with all SAS channels disabled as well.

Translational lift is greatly undermodeled.

Ground effect does not appear to be modeled at all.

Rotor flapping appears to be modeled visually but does not appear to affect flight.

Transverse flow/blowback is not modeled.

Dissymetry of lift is not modeled except at extremely high speeds.

[SnowTiger]

I use the F55 Rhino Hotas.

I tune a slight dead zone myself for the center of my Cyclic and to overcome the center detent on my CH pedals (for all aircraft mods).