Black_Hawk Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Does anyone have any? I searched the Net, but was pretty unlucky while doing that... And I need them because I'll be skinning the Kiew 3D model for Lock On. 159th GAR LockOnFiles CAW Team
Black_Hawk Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 I said KIEW, read the title more carefully next time :smartass: 159th GAR LockOnFiles CAW Team
Corsair7662 Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 you cant do the "Kiew" because there is no such thing in LOMAC! there is only the USS Carl Vinson for the USA and the Admiral Kuznetsov for the Russians. Besides, the Kiew is a Chinese aircraft carrier, as from what most websites say. 1
Black_Hawk Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 DUDE, I said I'm WORKING with a KIEW 3D MODEL, so it exists now in Lock On. :pilotfly: 159th GAR LockOnFiles CAW Team
Corsair7662 Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 And I need them because I'll be skinning the Kiew 3D model for Lock On. Keyword - "skinning" you never said ANYTHING about making the whole model, thats something else. Besides, good luck in getting the new aircraft carrier to work with LOMAC because I am pretty sure once you try and make a mission, it wont give you the 3 carriers to select, only 2:music_whistling:
Black_Hawk Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 Um, my FIRST post on this topic mentions the SKIN and the 3D MODEL :lol::megalol: 159th GAR LockOnFiles CAW Team
hitman Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 I need them because I'll be skinning the Kiew 3D model for Lock On. Where does it say your making a 3d model for LOMAC? Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
Stealth_HR Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Keyword - "skinning" you never said ANYTHING about making the whole model, thats something else. Besides, good luck in getting the new aircraft carrier to work with LOMAC because I am pretty sure once you try and make a mission, it wont give you the 3 carriers to select, only 2:music_whistling: And that alone is reason for you to keep arguing with him, and posting irreleveant photos? I beg to differ. Let's get a couple things straight. The Kiev isn't the Kuznetsov. They only share the role, not the class. B_H is working on a skin for the actual Kiev model currently WIP by pirahna_dl for use in LOMAC - ergo, he's making the model as well because a model is as good as non-existent without a template and/or skin, and I'm pretty sure the two of them are going to make it work, even with dropping a few elements - personally, I'd even drop the Carl Vinson if it'd mean the mod creates a virtual red-on-red conflict. If you'd like to fight about semantics of what he said, you picked the wrong guy to do it because B_H isn't a native speaker. If you'd like to fight about the futility of the mod, sit back and don't hinder the mini-team's work, because they're at least trying to do something. B_H, I'm sorry I can't provide photos of the Kiev yet, but I'll start looking. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D
hitman Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 No the Kiew and Kiev are different...not sure exactly other than the Kiew is chinese. Havent seen any pics of it yet though. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
Black_Hawk Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 So that's why googling didn't bring up any photo results? :joystick: But I saw both KieV and KieW :music_whistling: Anyway, thanks for the pics =FV=MAD 159th GAR LockOnFiles CAW Team
Corsair7662 Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 And that alone is reason for you to keep arguing with him, and posting irreleveant photos? I beg to differ. Let's get a couple things straight. The Kiev isn't the Kuznetsov. They only share the role, not the class. B_H is working on a skin for the actual Kiev model currently WIP by another member for use in LOMAC - ergo, he's making the model as well because a model is as good as non-existent without a template and/or skin, and I'm pretty sure the two of them are going to make it work, even with dropping a few elements - personally, I'd even drop the Carl Vinson if it'd mean the mod creates a virtual red-on-red conflict. If you'd like to fight about semantics of what he said, you picked the wrong guy to do it because B_H isn't a native speaker. If you'd like to fight about the futility, sit back and don't hinder his work. B_H, I'm sorry I can't provide photos of the Kiev yet, but I'll start looking. #1. I certainly know the Kiev is not the Kuznetsov, I was just thinking that was what he meant. #2. I know what the Kiev is! #3. Dont come at me with an attitude because I will come with one right back at you.
Force_Feedback Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Lol, this thread is silly :P Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Black_Hawk Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 You could have asked if I have meant the Kuznetsov, without posting irrelevant pics... Anyway, you're the one that's missunderstanding the thread topic. And IIRC, you stated that Kiev/Kiew/Kyiv/Whatever is a Chinese carrier. 159th GAR LockOnFiles CAW Team
Stealth_HR Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 #1. I certainly know the Kiev is not the Kuznetsov, I was just thinking that was what he meant. #2. I know what the Kiev is! He mentioned it twice, in the topic and the OP. You're the one who left the impression you didn't know the distinction. #3. Dont come at me with an attitude because I will come with one right back at you. Pardon me for defending a friend and a clanmate. I won't do it anymore. I swear. :doh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D
FVMAD Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 some pics also http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/fleet/russian/11434.htm Kyiv.. that's new.. kinda translation from ukranian :) Now it's Chinese Museum lol...
SuperKungFu Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 whoa whoa, what's up with all this anger. Cmon Black Hawk, you are asking help from the community. At first i thought it was a typo too and u meant Kiev. Even though Corsair took the time to find those pictures for you, you don't have to give him attitude just because its the wrong pictures or there was a misunderstanding. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Black_Hawk Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 Hi HRZ (surely NOT Kenan) :D I don't have a homepage. The 3D model is made by piranha-dl and his homepage is here. He just asked if I could skin his model, he's the one who did the hard work. And I don't think that I took an agressive attitude. And if Corsair thought it was a typo he could also take some time to try to explain me the difference... And I tried to explain him that it was a missunderstanding from his side but he persisted in a verbal fight. Well, not so much a fight, but you sure know what I mean :smartass: Anyway, thanks for the pictures. 159th GAR LockOnFiles CAW Team
hitman Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 I like those stealth frigates he has designed..the DD(L) class surface ships too... Heres some I would like to see. http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=35515 Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
britgliderpilot Posted November 9, 2006 Posted November 9, 2006 No the Kiew and Kiev are different...not sure exactly other than the Kiew is chinese. Havent seen any pics of it yet though. Two Kiev-class carriers were sold to the Chinese, one being the Kiev itself. Suggest the W is a misspelling that's crept in since then. One more is being modified and sold to India for operation of the MiG29K. Awaiting arrival of JJ-Alfa for corrections and the Definitive Answer ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
Swartz (LT) Posted November 9, 2006 Posted November 9, 2006 Just a quick question, off the top of my head. Could it be the word may have been misinterpreted. Not sure on my foreign language but maybe it is spelled Kiev but pronounced as Kiew? Don't bite my head off just offering my two cents. :)
FVMAD Posted November 9, 2006 Posted November 9, 2006 Just a quick question, off the top of my head. Could it be the word may have been misinterpreted. Not sure on my foreign language but maybe it is spelled Kiev but pronounced as Kiew? Don't bite my head off just offering my two cents. :) No :) Kiev and Kiew is the same in russian = Киев. The other thing is Kyiv, this sounds totally different 'coz it's ukranian. But carrier was build in USSR, so official language was russian so as the name of carrier, forget about ukranian variant :) Kiew - wrong spelling.
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