Performance sucks....

[kaboki]

Why does the Mig21 perform so bad compared to all other modules. I really love this plane and the feel of it, but the performance keeps me away. This is the only module I really regret buying. I kinda wanted the Viggen, but since the Mig 21 performs so bad, im afraid to buy it and purchase something I'll regret, again... :(

 

Any words from the devs to improve performance of this otherwise excellent module?:huh:

[portman]

As stated multiple times by LNS, there won't be any further performance tweaks :(

[lemoen]

Why does the Mig21 perform so bad compared to all other modules. I really love this plane and the feel of it, but the performance keeps me away. This is the only module I really regret buying. I kinda wanted the Viggen, but since the Mig 21 performs so bad, im afraid to buy it and purchase something I'll regret, again... :(

 

Any words from the devs to improve performance of this otherwise excellent module?:huh:

 

Your computer shouldn't have any trouble. Are you maxing out everything? Turn the graphics a bit lower and forget about it. Should run mostly at 60fps

[shab249]

The mig-21 is the best module in dcs at least in my opinion. I have less fps in the A10C than in the 21 so dont regret it

Try to tweek your grahpics lower (epically shadows water and depth)

 

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[OnlyforDCS]

Also Mirrors. Turn off mirrors. Mirrors kill all except the best of the best systems. They are not really much use anyway :)

[BIGNEWY]

play around with your settings, and upgrade your RAM to 16gb, 8gb is minimum for DCS

 

I don't have any issues in the Mig-21

[kaboki]

Your computer shouldn't have any trouble. Are you maxing out everything? Turn the graphics a bit lower and forget about it. Should run mostly at 60fps

 

Probably gonna helpa little bit, but Im used to nice graphics when im running my other modules, so going back too 2006'ish graphics quality just too run the Mig 21 won't cut it for me, I rather just let it collect dust in the hangar, and never look back for more modules from LNS...:music_whistling:

 

 

As stated multiple times by LNS, there won't be any further performance tweaks :(

 

Thanks, then my statement would be I wont ever buy anything from LNS again:(

 

play around with your settings, and upgrade your RAM to 16gb, 8gb is minimum for DCS

 

I don't have any issues in the Mig-21

 

 

Im curious too know why all my other modules(A10C, Mirage 2000C, F5E, Huey and P51) runs 60FPS with pretty much maxed settings except mirrors, and the mig 21 runs like crap even with lower settings.....

 

My 8gb seems fine with all other modules, Im not exactly convinced that upgrading too 16GB is gonna solve my issue with the Mig 21. Even if I exceed 8GB RAM I never notice any performance issues when it unloads too the hardrive(SSD).

 

In short I don't belive the RAM is the issue in this particular chase.....

Edited February 9, 2017 by kaboki

[NeilWillis]

The MiG-21 is just more demanding. If your system is creaking, don't blame the software. You can either turn your settings down to suit, or upgrade. Arguing about what is to blame doesn't help one iota. On a decent system it runs fine.

 

I am sure Leatherneck always do their best to optimize modules to run as efficiently as possible. Just don't expect miracles.

[kaboki]

The MiG-21 is just more demanding. If your system is creaking, don't blame the software. You can either turn your settings down to suit, or upgrade. Arguing about what is to blame doesn't help one iota. On a decent system it runs fine.

 

I am sure Leatherneck always do their best to optimize modules to run as efficiently as possible. Just don't expect miracles.

 

Could you enlighten me with what you mean by a decent system? And no, I don't expect miracles, but when all the other module makers can make excellent quality addons that runs uber smooth in this SIM, then why does LNS have to overfill their bucket so it ruins the overall performance of the SIM?

 

I payed good money for it and I expect to be able to run it just like the other high quality modules... I guess if people are satisfied with this, then OK, but there should be a warning when I buy from LNS that this particular module performs 50% worse(Im not even exagerating) than all other modules for DCS, and that you need a Nasa computer too run it...

 

BTW, is it possible to get a refund?

 

Edit: WTH was I thinking, I should have known I would be overrun by fanboys and cocky mods when I started this thread:p

Edited February 9, 2017 by kaboki

[sgtmike74]

Take it with a grain of salt, not trying to pick a fight or anything but it's the ram.

 

I went from 8 to 16 gigs and it was like flipping a switch. Not just with DCS but my other games as well.

 

I hope it works out for you though.

[GaryIKILLYOU]

With your attitude coming in can you really say you expected anything else? You were offered a solution to your problem, and you shot back with an over exaggerated snarky response. Do you seriously expect the developer to stop what they're doing (making mad amounts of money from the Viggen) to rewrite an entire code base for a snooty customer that can't be bothered to move a few sliders from "High" to "Medium"? If you seriously are going to completely discount anything coming from LNS because one of the most complex and detailed simulation aircraft in computer flight simulation history is performing a bit worse than others due to its complexity for you, then I have a feeling this genre isn't for you.

 

I have no problems running the MiG-21Bis at med/high settings getting upwards of 90-120 FPS. But then again I have a decent system.

[kaboki]

With your attitude coming in can you really say you expected anything else? You were offered a solution to your problem, and you shot back with an over exaggerated snarky response. Do you seriously expect the developer to stop what they're doing (making mad amounts of money from the Viggen) to rewrite an entire code base for a snooty customer that can't be bothered to move a few sliders from "High" to "Medium"? If you seriously are going to completely discount anything coming from LNS because one of the most complex and detailed simulation aircraft in computer flight simulation history is performing a bit worse than others due to its complexity for you, then I have a feeling this genre isn't for you.

 

I have no problems running the MiG-21Bis at med/high settings getting upwards of 90-120 FPS. But then again I have a decent system.

 

Not sure what makes the Mig 21 more complex than all the others, A10C, Mirage 2000C, F5E etc. Are you saying they are mediocre modules and the Mig 21 is the only complex one?

 

Also, there is no attitude, just a fed up customer, waiting for this module to get finished and perform better. But I got what I wanted with this thread, wich was an answer if LNS is gonna do something to fix the Mig 21 performance, and they are not, so I guess Im outta here. Plenty of other 3rd partys to support, that makes modules that is useful "for me".... I've been bothered by the mig 21's performance since I bought in beta, and I assumed it was work in progress, but after some years of waiting and nothing have improved I had too ask the question wether they are gonna do something about it or not...

 

If people get offended by that, so be it.

 

Oh yeah, sure this genre is for me, as long as I stay the hell away from LNS modules, I'll be fine:pilotfly:

 

"Move a few sliders from "High" to "Medium", for me its more like move all sliders from "high" too "low", wich I find unacceptable just for running this plane, when I can put all sliders on "max" and fly other "just as complex and excellent modules"....

Edited February 9, 2017 by kaboki
fixed wording

[ac5]

I think kaboki is quite right...

 

Even with my system (see specs below) the Mig 21, although a

gorgeous module, is far far "heavier" than all the other DCS planes.

Just pay attention on how long it takes to load into ram, compared to the other planes.

 

Moreover, at least here, it causes the problems I have posted in my thread:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=165729

 

And "loading" pauses of 2-3 sec. are more often than other planes.

 

With the Viggen I have not encountered this issues.

[BIGNEWY]

Im curious too know why all my other modules(A10C, Mirage 2000C, F5E, Huey and P51) runs 60FPS with pretty much maxed settings except mirrors, and the mig 21 runs like crap even with lower settings.....

 

My 8gb seems fine with all other modules, Im not exactly convinced that upgrading too 16GB is gonna solve my issue with the Mig 21. Even if I exceed 8GB RAM I never notice any performance issues when it unloads too the hardrive(SSD).

 

In short I don't belive the RAM is the issue in this particular chase.....

 

Some modules demand more from others, they cannot all be the same.

 

regardless of this the minimum specification for DCS is 8gb RAM, if you want a better experience I would recommend, just like eagle dynamics do, that you use 16gb.

 

 

Minimum system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i3; RAM: 8 GB; Free hard disk space: 30 GB; Video: 2 GB RAM card, DirectX11 - compatible; requires internet activation.

 

Recommended system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i5+; RAM: 16GB; Hard disk space: 30 GB; Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX780 / ATI R9 290 DirectX11 or better; Joystick; requires internet activation.

[kaboki]

if you want a better experience I would recommend, just like eagle dynamics do, that you use 16gb.

 

If I upgrade my RAM and nothing improves, where do I find you?:music_whistling:

[Captain Spears]

RAM is your friend here :) plus it's cheap.

[outlawal2]

Based on your repeated feedback to suggestions ...

 

Good Luck!

Cya

[kaboki]

RAM is your friend here :) plus it's cheap.

 

No, RAM is quite expensive where i live, so, im kinda scared to spend 400 euro if it doesn't help(Not sure I can trust the info in this thread, because it seems kinda biased towards LNS)...

 

Based on your repeated feedback to suggestions ...

 

Good Luck!

Cya

 

Thanks for the great feedback, good luck too you too sir....Maybe I won't cya...

(I wasn't looking for "upgrade your 'puter" kinda statements, what I asked for if LNS is gonna improve the Mig 21 performance, wich obviously sucks compared to other modules out there)

Edited February 9, 2017 by kaboki

[outlawal2]

LOL

You truly ARE a ray of sunshine!

 

Wow..

[Mud]

I'd really start with overclocking your CPU. You've got a K model that you appear to be running at stock speeds according to your sig.

[kaboki]

I'd really start with overclocking your CPU. You've got a K model that you appear to be running at stock speeds according to your sig.

 

Really. now its my CPU, before it was my RAM. LOL, I'll just make it simple and blame it on the Mig 21...(wich in this case really is my bottleneck, easy solution, I stopped flying it:))

 

 

Well, this aint going anywhere, the devs don't want to improve performance, and I don't want to support the devs anymore, case closed. This thread has run it's course, mods, you might just close it,,,,

 

This was a preemptive statement from me, before I inflict myself a ban......

Edited February 9, 2017 by kaboki

[myHelljumper]

Mig-21 run great on my computer, I have no problems with frame rate.

 

The problem might be on your side, do you have any mods ? Did you tried a repair ?

 

I don't know where you found 16GB of RAM for 400€ but it sounds like a scam.

 

I changed my 8GB to 16GB about 6 month ago and it really helped with FPS, you should try that.

[outlawal2]

Alright I should just walk and let you fester in your awesome attitude, but based on a statement you made earlier.. (Something about buying this module in early beta) I would recommend uninstalling the module and then re downloading it and reinstalling it..

 

Possible that you have not been getting any recent updates and so you are still using the original airframe with it's original issues.

 

I had this exact issue with one of the helicopters and just about went nuts trying to figure it out because everyone was telling me I didn't know how to fly and that is why I was constantly hitting VRS and cratering.

 

Turned out the issue was something wrong with the updater and I was not getting the fixed models so DCS had fixed the issue but I wasn't getting the fixes..

[myHelljumper]

I'll just make it simple and blame it on the Mig 21...

 

It really show that you want to find a solution :)

[outlawal2]

Alright I should just walk and let you fester in your awesome attitude, but based on a statement you made earlier.. (Something about buying this module in early beta) I would recommend uninstalling the module and then re downloading it and reinstalling it..

 

Possible that you have not been getting any recent updates and so you are still using the original airframe with it's original issues.

 

I had this exact issue with one of the helicopters and just about went nuts trying to figure it out because everyone was telling me I didn't know how to fly and that is why I was constantly hitting VRS and cratering.

 

Turned out the issue was something wrong with the updater and I was not getting the fixed models so DCS had fixed the issue but I wasn't getting the fixes..

 

Hey buddy did you read my earlier post or are you having too much fun bashing folks instead? Do you want assistance or are you here to simply troll?