Struggling to Understand Landing HUD Symbology

[Weegie]

Well that's really just part of it, the HUD symbology overall is a bit bizarre.

 

Anyway I can't find any decent landing tutorials on a visual landing. I can land it but only by totally ignoring what the HUD is telling me.

 

When I follow the HUD or use the auto throttle, I end up on finals at 550kph or thereabouts.

 

When I use the instruments and ignore what the HUD is telling me to do (from Chuck's Guide and the manual) my AOA marker sinks off the HUD.

 

Of any of you hotshots out there could post a video, of landing showing the control positions, IAS and HUD to do a correct visual approach it would be much appreciated

 

God help me when I start to try TILS

[Rudel_chw]

Bunyap has a good video where he explains the P/O Landing Mode, which is almost a visual landing ... the landing part starts around minute 12:

 

 

[Weegie]

Thanks Rudel

 

That is a really good video, he makes it look soooo easy though

 

Need more practice

[Zabuzard]

In the visual mode the HUD shows a long horizontal line. Place the line at the runway threshold (beginning of the runway). Hold the line there, then you have a good glide-path.

 

Now you need to maintain a good AOA by adjusting your speed while holding the line at the threshold.

Your flight path marker (little circle which indicates your flight vector) has a 'fin' on the top. You have the correct AOA/speed when the fin meets the circle, hold it there.

In general the autothrottle, when the gear is extended, should hold your speed automatically in such that you have the correct AOA.

Edited February 19, 2017 by Zabuza

[Weegie]

Thanks Zabuza

 

I'm beginning to get to grips with it, but still got a bit of a way to go

 

That helps

[Ice_Cougar]

 

I'm beginning to get to grips with it, but still got a bit of a way to go

 

 

This video may help you out in learning to do the ILS approach...One thing though. The TILS antenna that guides your ILS (TILS) system is slightly off-center from the runway, and in the video he tells you to simply look for signs of the runway.

 

However all you really have to do is kinda use your TILS indicators on the ADI to get a good line-up on the runway and just follow the heading in while watching the waypoint circle and line on your radar/CI (central indicator) while ignoring the TILS horizontal directional guides once within ~5 km of the runway, only using the CI indicator to guide you instead for a near perfect ILS/TILS approach.

 

Also, you can use the vertical guidance of the TILS all the way in, since vertical guidance won't really care about the antenna being off-center from the runway.

 

 

Hope it helps ;)

[Fishbreath]

This video may help you out in learning to do the ILS approach...One thing though. The TILS antenna that guides your ILS (TILS) system is slightly off-center from the runway, and in the video he tells you to simply look for signs of the runway.

 

However all you really have to do is kinda use your TILS indicators on the ADI to get a good line-up on the runway and just follow the heading in while watching the waypoint circle and line on your radar/CI (central indicator) while ignoring the TILS horizontal directional guides once within ~5 km of the runway, only using the CI indicator to guide you instead for a near perfect ILS/TILS approach.

 

Also, you can use the vertical guidance of the TILS all the way in, since vertical guidance won't really care about the antenna being off-center from the runway.

 

 

Hope it helps ;)

 

If you follow the TILS directional guide all the way in, you'll be lined up with the center of the runway about 900 meters from the threshold. You can turn slightly onto the threshold at that point, and it's much easier for me to follow both directors all the way down to there.

[Weegie]

Wow

 

Thank you so much for going to the trouble, exactly what I needed for TILS.

 

Not only that but a nice looking video too and really nice flying.

 

I cannot yet follow HUD steerpoints that accurately in the turns.

 

Awesome the way the runway appears from nowhere at the last minute

 

That was great and learned a lot from the video

[Home Fries]

Hope it helps ;)

 

Is that mission available for practice?

[Ice_Cougar]

If you follow the TILS directional guide all the way in, you'll be lined up with the center of the runway about 900 meters from the threshold. You can turn slightly onto the threshold at that point, and it's much easier for me to follow both directors all the way down to there.

I see. I suppose it depends for each airfield, but whatever works for you! ;)

 

Wow

 

Thank you so much for going to the trouble, exactly what I needed for TILS.

 

Not only that but a nice looking video too and really nice flying.

 

I cannot yet follow HUD steerpoints that accurately in the turns.

 

Awesome the way the runway appears from nowhere at the last minute

 

That was great and learned a lot from the video

Great! Don't thank me however, thank the video creator. I just found the video and linked it here! ;)

 

Is that mission available for practice?

 

I checked the guy's video description but its not there. Perhaps one could ask him in the comments section...I made a few bad landing condition missions myself and sometimes it can be really stressful to rely so heavily on altimeter, ILS/TILS, CI indicator, HUD, and terrain avoidance radar. Once you get used to it however, it becomes very intuitive and easy. :)

[Home Fries]

Thanks, Ice Cougar. It appears that he has uploaded the mission now.