landing with full up elevator trim?

[WildBillKelsoe]

is it supposed to be like this? more so, is it right to control rate of descent with stick pull?

[Emmy]

In real life flying, you control rate of descent with power and speed with pitch.

[WildBillKelsoe]

thats my point but I hold the stick back with no more elevator trim (fully applied no more trim pitch up authority)

[BitMaster]

Were your flaps fully down as well ?

[WildBillKelsoe]

yes

[Akatsuki]

I never had this behavior... This is strange.

[WildBillKelsoe]

I'm including a video shortly...

[some1]

First of all, even if you have to control the speed with pitch, that doesn't mean the stick has to be centered. If you run out of trim, just pull the stick enough to maintain constant pitch.

 

Second, in the high performance airplanes, pitch and throttle have to work together, their effect on the landing parameters is intertwined.

 

That being said, I don't remember running out of trim in the MiG, only Fw-190. Maybe you're overweight or don't extend the landing flaps? You need to wait a bit with the flaps in takeoff position before they can be extended for landing, it's explained in the manual.

[WildBillKelsoe]

yes I am aware of that but maybe my approach speed being near stall speed?

 

I am honestly not sure about approach speeds (have not read the manual well enough tbh)

 

Assuming my critical AoA is reached, this also is PiE?

First of all, even if you have to control the speed with pitch, that doesn't mean the stick has to be centered. If you run out of trim, just pull the stick enough to maintain constant pitch.

 

Second, in the high performance airplanes, pitch and throttle have to work together, their effect on the landing parameters is intertwined.

 

That being said, I don't remember running out of trim in the MiG, only Fw-190. Maybe you're overweight or don't extend the landing flaps? You need to wait a bit with the flaps in takeoff position before they can be extended for landing, it's explained in the manual.