DCS at 1080p on 4k TV anyone?

[wilbur81]

Do any of you gents play DCS at 1080p resolution on 4k tvs? If so, how does the down-scaling look?

 

I'm looking at the TCL 55S405 for DCS, but don't think my system (see sig. below) can handle at DCS 4k very well.

 

Thanks in advance!

[Lao Fei Mao]

Yes, you may scale down to 1080p, but remember to set your desktop resolution to same resolution, otherwise the in game GUI doesn't work properly. Your GTX1070 can run smooth at 1440P, 1080p is away too much degrade.

[Puma]

Yah I run on a 39” 4k tv at 1080p. Works great. My only issue was when I tried to put the thrustmaster mfds on the monitor. Because its physically large the number of pixels in the mfcds at 1080p was too low. Id love to go 4k but cant get decent frame rates :(

Edited January 23, 2018 by Puma
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[wilbur81]

Because its physically large the number of pixels in the mfcds at 1080p was too low. Id love to go 4k but cant get decent frame rates :(

 

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not exactly clear what you mean by "number of pixels...too low?"

 

Couple more questions if you don't mind?

 

- Does the 1080p picture look faded/blurry compared to a native 1080p tv?

- What are your system specs?

[Puma]

Not faded or blurry at all. When you run 4k at 1080p you effectively get 4 pixela switching together. Never blurry. Perhaps blocky if you compare to 4k but compared to a native 1080p screen of equivalent size you will be happy.

 

I physically attached my mfcds over my monitor. 1920x1080 over a 39” diagonal monitor meant that I had yo resize the dcs mfcds down to around 250x250 pixels to fit in the physical space behind the thrustmaster mfcds. But at 260px the detaila of the mfcds were hard to read. Its called pizel density if you wish to google further. I just moved them to a 1920x1080 15” display and get cover 500 pixels in the same physical space. Its only relevant if you plan on mounting your mfcds to it.

 

My system specs are in my signature. Including link to my pit video for context. Cheers.

[Barefoot Bandit]

1080P divides perfectly into 4k - there is pretty much no scaling needed.. There is no problem - as mentioned, just set Windows to 1080P too, or there will likely be UI issues.

 

Remember this the next time someone goes on about how 1080P content looks great with the scaling to 4k - it's because 1080P divides into 4K perfectly. Tell me how it goes with 720P, or some other resolution that doesn't divide nicely into 4k.

 

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Edited January 23, 2018 by Barefoot Bandit

[wilbur81]

Thanks for the replies, fellas!

[wilbur81]

1080p HUD/VSD symbology

 

Hey, Fellas.

 

I received my 55 inch tcl s405 (4k) TV and have been messing around/testing DCS for the past week. I prefer to play at 1080p for FPS performance, but the quality is pretty poor compared to a native 1080p (which is what I'd feared and why I started the thread in the first place. :-)) In particular, in the F-15, the HUD and VSD text is very hard to read unless zoomed in very close. Any suggestions? (other than "get a native 1080p TV) :-)

[Puma]

Hey, Fellas.

 

I received my 55 inch tcl s405 (4k) TV and have been messing around/testing DCS for the past week. I prefer to play at 1080p for FPS performance, but the quality is pretty poor compared to a native 1080p (which is what I'd feared and why I started the thread in the first place. :-)) In particular, in the F-15, the HUD and VSD text is very hard to read unless zoomed in very close. Any suggestions? (other than "get a native 1080p TV) :-)

MAny TVs ship in a mode that slightly zooms the signal as per broadcast spec. Play with sizing settings like wide and look for something like pixel perfect or screen fit. Also check your video card settings to ensure you dont have any overscan or underscan configured.

 

Ensure your windows desktop fits perfectly in your tv before trying dcs.

 

Lastly dont forget youve just enlarged your screen massively so a perception of blurry is possibly just cause its much larger.

[JIMJAM]

After the WOW factor settles down reality sets in. I also play Fallout 4 with a lot of mods including 4k textures. Looks incredible but I started getting the every so often CRASH due to memory errors despite a ultra fast rig, MSI 1080ti 32 gigs ram ssd etc. Back it down to 1080 p and its never crashed.

Same with DCS VR. I will take consistency over ransom ctds any day. Looks great to me and runs smoother, runs cooler....

 

Oh yeah, Sony 42 inch top of the line, latest greatest 6 months ago so its probably 1/2 the price. by now. I refuse to look back hahaha.

[wilbur81]

Thanks for the responses, fellas.

 

I've tinkered with every TV setting imaginable (I think). It's not so much blurriness, but artifacts surrounding things like HUD symbology, text, etc. in the cockpit. If I go "HUD only mode," the VSD displayed on the lower left corner of the screen is perfectly readable...it's when I'm actually using the full cockpit display that the image quality deterioration shows the most. It's as if I'm play with AA turned off (even though I have it set at 8x)

[Brewnix]

Thanks for the responses, fellas.

 

I've tinkered with every TV setting imaginable (I think).

 

It's as if I'm play with AA turned off (even though I have it set at 8x)

 

Hey Wilbur81! just a thought on those 2 comments^ I used to play on 3 40" Westinghouse LCD/TV's

When I had to switch from VGA to HDMI on the same tv I hated the HDMI connection cause it always looked like I had no AA applied. And the colors even on the desktop were off. desktop icons, web browser and games all looked grainy. I ended up turning off the Sharpness on the TV settings. Read this tip in a Audio Video forum they said for hooking a TV upto a computer the Sharpness is no good for computer color palette and line smoothing. I know there different TV's completely But it made think about my problem!