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edineygomes

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What possible configurations of harrier armament were available in the LHA-1 Tarawa in real life ??? What is the maximum takeoff weight in these configurations ??? Are external fuel tanks equipped on aircraft while in Tarawa ???

 

 

What is the configuration of aircraft and helicopters used in Tarawa ??? (How many units were inside the ship if it was in wartime) ???

 

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edineygomes

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I need a better response than that ...

 

 

This is just a guide and there is not the information I need in it, about the loadout, does not tell which one is used when the aircraft is in LHA (weight limitation ??). I wonder if anyone knows what loadouts were used in real life. And about the amount of aircraft ...

edineygomes

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Read the manual

 

 

I've already said that the "manual" does not show all the information I need, read what I posted before choosing the simplest answer ...

 

If you have nothing to help, then please do not post anything ...

 

 

I usually see lighter loadouts on videos. Are those in the "manual" not referring to the same as the one used in the LHA-1 Tarawa or is it only when the aircraft is on land?

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Fortes

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The problem is not taking off, the problem is the landing, keep in mind that everything is weight, AIM9 is weight, water is weight, always calculate your weight for those recommended in the MANUAL. there are some Kneeboard that has the weight of each equipment.

edineygomes

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Fortes don't waste your time, let him figure it out ...Google it.

 

Dude, you do not have anything else to do ??? If you do not want to help, do not disturb. Attitudes of people like you do not add anything to DCS World. You have not even read ALL the post. As I said, my question (s) are not listed in the "manual".

 

 

I believe that not all configurations were available in Tarawa, I would like to know which ones were most used. Of course the plane was not loaded with GBU-12 for takeoff because of the short runway. and in the second part I asked about the standard configuration (quantity) of airplanes, helicopters, etc ...

 

 

I wonder if anyone served on any of these ships and if they could answer these questions.

 

Is it so difficult to understand or do you want me to draw ???

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I will try to help you, but like others said is easy to find info in internet.

 

The most common configuration you will see in modern Harriers, like the last Operations in Afghanistan is something like this.

 

Always TPOD on the center pylon, Two fuel tanks and a mix of 1 Laser Mav and a GBU-54. Or a mix of Mav + GBU-12 or Two GBU-54, or Two GBU-12 plus the 25mm gun.

 

The TPOD and two fuel tanks are almost mandatory in any mission. No sidewinders because no threat, but is possible to load two Aim-9 with almost no weight penalty.

 

Also but much more infrequent is the use of Zuni rockets in one Harrier and the other with any of the loads mentioned.

 

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edineygomes

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I will try to help you, but like others said is easy to find info in internet.

 

The most common configuration you will see in modern Harriers, like the last Operations in Afghanistan is something like this.

 

Always TPOD on the center pylon, Two fuel tanks and a mix of 1 Laser Mav and a GBU-54. Or a mix of Mav + GBU-12 or Two GBU-54, or Two GBU-12 plus the 25mm gun.

 

The TPOD and two fuel tanks are almost mandatory in any mission. No sidewinders because no threat, but is possible to load two Aim-9 with almost no weight penalty.

 

Also but much more infrequent is the use of Zuni rockets in one Harrier and the other with any of the loads mentioned.

 

VMA-231-photo-026.jpg

 

5b323d74f15b9d4819a0ee00eff14fc4.jpg

 

0839138.jpg?v=v40

 

A_U.S._Marine_Corps_AV-8B_Harrier_aircraft_assigned_to_Marine_Attack_Squadron_VMA_311_flies_over_Helmand_province_Afghanistan_June_1.jpg

 

Thank you for your help!

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whiteladder

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The air wing of the ships is varible depend on the mission. It would normally be some thing like 24 helicopters and 6 Harriers.

 

But during OIF 1 they operated 4 ships in the northern gulf, USS Bonhomme Richards with 24 Harriers, USS Bataan with 24, USS Tarawa with 6, USS Nassau with 6. This was because of the shortage of airfield space because many Gulf states refused to allow their airbases to be used.

 

Once the fighting had started and the Iraqi airfield at Ahmed al Jaber was captured the Harriers on the ship would fly their initial mission, usually with an top up from tankers, land at the FOB at Al Jaber refuel and rearm, fly another mission and so on until there operating slot was done, then return to the ship. Their was also a stretch if highway near Baghdad used as FOB.

 

Flying from the ship they almost always used 2 external tanks, litening pod (if availble otherwise buddy lased) and either 2 gbu-12 or 2 Mavericks or 1 gbu-16 and 2 sidewinders, which they stopped once the airthreat had diminished. During the war fight phase the gun pod was hardly used, the Sam threat keeping them above the height where is could be employed. After the war fight had ceased and they were fighting the insurgents the gun pods were used again.

 

I would recommend getting Av-8b units of operation Iraqi Freedom by Osprey publishing lots of info about the stuff you are asking about.

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The air wing of the ships is varible depend on the mission. It would normally be some thing like 24 helicopters and 6 Harriers.

 

But during OIF 1 they operated 4 ships in the northern gulf, USS Bonhomme Richards with 24 Harriers, USS Bataan with 24, USS Tarawa with 6, USS Nassau with 6. This was because of the shortage of airfield space because many Gulf states refused to allow their airbases to be used.

 

Once the fighting had started and the Iraqi airfield at Ahmed al Jaber was captured the Harriers on the ship would fly their initial mission, usually with an top up from tankers, land at the FOB at Al Jaber refuel and rearm, fly another mission and so on until there operating slot was done, then return to the ship. Their was also a stretch if highway near Baghdad used as FOB.

 

Flying from the ship they almost always used 2 external tanks, litening pod (if availble otherwise buddy lased) and either 2 gbu-12 or 2 Mavericks or 1 gbu-16 and 2 sidewinders, which they stopped once the airthreat had diminished. During the war fight phase the gun pod was hardly used, the Sam threat keeping them above the height where is could be employed. After the war fight had ceased and they were fighting the insurgents the gun pods were used again.

 

I would recommend getting Av-8b units of operation Iraqi Freedom by Osprey publishing lots of info about the stuff you are asking about.

 

 

Very interesting, thank you for the information

 

 

This book you quoted?

https://ospreypublishing.com/av-8b-harrier-ii-units-of-operation-iraqi-freedom-i-vi

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