Rain Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Hey guys, I have been wondering what are the differences in capabilities between F/A-18C and F-15C in regards to Radar Warning Receivers? Comparison is between ALR-67 vs. AN/ALR-56, right? Please give me your input, Regards, Rain
Spudknocker Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 My educated guess would be that just like the radars the F-15's is probably more tuned to air to air threats while the F/A-18 's is more of an all around type system. But they may be very similar just have changes specific to the aircraft in the same way the APG-70 and APG-73 are similar but tuned to the different jobs of the Hornet and Albino Eagle [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS
RShackleford Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 My guess for DCS F-18 is that it will look and perform the same as the F-15C and A-10C RWR. Symbology and function for DCS F-15C RWR is quite different than what the TEWS on a real F-15 does and looks like, which is understandable because it's all pretty classified.
Beamscanner Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Depends on which ALR-67 we get (ALR-67v2, ALR-67v2(ECP-510), ALR-67v3) But compared to the ALR-56C (TEWS on F-15C) the ALR-67v2 (the most basic one we could get) has some capabilities the TEWS doesn't. -Low band direction finding -Varied Audio tones (dependent on emitter type, lock vs scan, emitter range) -Threat rings instead of relative range -The ALR-67 works and shares data with the radar, datalink, countermeasure dispenser, jammer, HARM. -ALR-67 emitters can be displayed almost everywhere. (Azimuth scope, HUD, JHMCS, SA page, EW Page. it may also go to the A2A radar page? not 100% on that though) -It also incorporates Inertial guidance system (INS) stabilization for accurate display in high g manoeuvres and during high roll maneuvers. Overal the ALR-67 is more modern and provides more information, more audio cues, and works with more systems than the -56C. Sources: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/an-alr-67.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALR-67_Radar_Warning_Receiver
RShackleford Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 Depends on which ALR-67 we get (ALR-67v2, ALR-67v2(ECP-510), ALR-67v3) But compared to the ALR-56C (TEWS on F-15C) the ALR-67v2 (the most basic one we could get) has some capabilities the TEWS doesn't. -Low band direction finding -Varied Audio tones (dependent on emitter type, lock vs scan, emitter range) -Threat rings instead of relative range -The ALR-67 works and shares data with the radar, datalink, countermeasure dispenser, jammer, HARM. -ALR-67 emitters can be displayed almost everywhere. (Azimuth scope, HUD, JHMCS, SA page, EW Page. it may also go to the A2A radar page? not 100% on that though) -It also incorporates Inertial guidance system (INS) stabilization for accurate display in high g manoeuvres and during high roll maneuvers. Overal the ALR-67 is more modern and provides more information, more audio cues, and works with more systems than the -56C. Sources: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/an-alr-67.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALR-67_Radar_Warning_Receiver Yeah I understand it is a different and newer system, my point was just that DCS has a somewhat single type of RWR on F-15C and A-10C even though they're very different systems. Would love to have some of this functionality though for sure. Hopefully they can get enough open source data on the ALR-67 to implement it. 1
GGTharos Posted February 16, 2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Actually this list describes stuff that the ALR-56C does in conjunction with TEWS. That system has gone through a number of upgrades itself. I suspect the actual details of the differences are ... not in the public domain :) Exept mayeb for the data-link fusion. Depends on which ALR-67 we get (ALR-67v2, ALR-67v2(ECP-510), ALR-67v3) But compared to the ALR-56C (TEWS on F-15C) the ALR-67v2 (the most basic one we could get) has some capabilities the TEWS doesn't. -Low band direction finding -Varied Audio tones (dependent on emitter type, lock vs scan, emitter range) -Threat rings instead of relative range -The ALR-67 works and shares data with the radar, datalink, countermeasure dispenser, jammer, HARM. -ALR-67 emitters can be displayed almost everywhere. (Azimuth scope, HUD, JHMCS, SA page, EW Page. it may also go to the A2A radar page? not 100% on that though) -It also incorporates Inertial guidance system (INS) stabilization for accurate display in high g manoeuvres and during high roll maneuvers. Overal the ALR-67 is more modern and provides more information, more audio cues, and works with more systems than the -56C. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Beamscanner Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 Well i have found video evidence of the ALR-67 airborne emitters being displayed on the RADAR ATTACK page. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3411089&postcount=18 So now we know that ALR-67 indications/data can be found in the following places. -Azimuth Scope -HUD -JHMCS -SA Page -EW Page -RADAR ATTACK Page 1
EcceHomo Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Depends on which ALR-67 we get (ALR-67v2, ALR-67v2(ECP-510), ALR-67v3) But compared to the ALR-56C (TEWS on F-15C) the ALR-67v2 (the most basic one we could get) has some capabilities the TEWS doesn't. -Low band direction finding -Varied Audio tones (dependent on emitter type, lock vs scan, emitter range) -Threat rings instead of relative range -The ALR-67 works and shares data with the radar, datalink, countermeasure dispenser, jammer, HARM. -ALR-67 emitters can be displayed almost everywhere. (Azimuth scope, HUD, JHMCS, SA page, EW Page. it may also go to the A2A radar page? not 100% on that though) -It also incorporates Inertial guidance system (INS) stabilization for accurate display in high g manoeuvres and during high roll maneuvers. Overal the ALR-67 is more modern and provides more information, more audio cues, and works with more systems than the -56C. Sources: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/an-alr-67.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALR-67_Radar_Warning_Receiver Now the ALR-67V in the game is not linked with INS. In maneuver, the accuracy of angle measurement is very poor. It's hard to imagine why an ALR-67V should be implemented instead of ALR-67(V)2.
Wizard_03 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Well i have found video evidence of the ALR-67 airborne emitters being displayed on the RADAR ATTACK page. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3411089&postcount=18 So now we know that ALR-67 indications/data can be found in the following places. -Azimuth Scope -HUD -JHMCS -SA Page -EW Page -RADAR ATTACK Page I hope this gets implemented, Having RWR contacts on the Radar Attack page is a game changer for me. The SA page makes it handy too. But from an intercept geometry planning standpoint, the less I have to look away from the scope the better. :) DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
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