Sierra99 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Gents... OK Here is what I have done and what I want to do. I stuffed the guts of a TM Cougar Joystick into a Suncom F-15 Stick and use it when flying the Eagle. Most of the functions such as Trim Switch, Castle Switch, Trigger etc. are straight forward and can be programmed via built in DCS editor. However some functionality cannot be implemented with the editor. For example: According to the F-15 Dash 1, pressing and releasing the Auto Acquisition Switch FORWARD cycles the radar between "SUPERSEARCH" and "BORESIGHT". AFT cycles between "Vertical Scan (VS)" and "Track While Scan (TWS)" I want to select "Long Range Search (LRS) [2]" and "Bore Sight (BORE) [4]" when I tip the AACQ Switch Forward. (DX Button 9) and "Vertical Scan (VS) [3]" and "Track While Scan (TWS) [RAlt-I]" when I tip the AACQ switch AFT. (DX Button 10) We don't have the ability to cycle between keys using the same switch via the DCS editor so should I do this using T.A.R.G.E.T. or by modifying the .LUA Script? If I understand things correctly, I "THINK" I'd prefer to do it via .LUA editing so I can just switch between aircraft in game and leave T.A.R.G.E.T. out of this...I'm going to be doing the same thing to some of the switches on the throttle as well...But I'm truly clueless beyond plug and play. Any help or suggestions setting this up would be greatly appreciated. Sierra [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
ricktoberfest Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 I think currently this can only be done in game by the devs of each module. Such as the A10C with its long and short presses. It would be great to have this ability though for a second press of the same button toggling a different command. As far as TARGET, it’s possible I believe but (for me) not worth the hassle Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Rudel_chw Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) The TM Cougar guts can be programmed using the TM Foxy software, which is easier to use than the newer TARGET software and it wouldnt impact on your other Hotas. The Cougar has two operating modes: DirectX and programmable mode. The mode is selectable using the Cougar Control Panel utility. The programmable mode basically turns the Cougar into a keyboard, and you could program the buttons to toggle netween two commands easily, using a Macro ... it can also produce two separate commands on a single button, for example release a chaff and a flare with a single button. The programming is done through the TM Foxy utility, for example the programming that you want would look like this: BTN H2U /T 2_Beyond_Visual_Range_Mode /T 4_Close_Air_Combat_Bore_Mode BTN H2D /T 3_Close_Air_Combat_Vertical_Scan_Mode /T Radar_RWS_TWS_Mode_Select This means that the Hat2, on the Up position produces the key for BVR Mode, and if you press it again it generates the key for Bore Mode, and with each new press it Toggles between these two commands. On the same way, the Down position of Hat2 will toggle between Veryical Scan and TWS Mode. For this to work, on the Foxy macro sheet there should be these lines, that tell the software which keys to "press" for each command: rem------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rem Modes rem------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1_Navigation_Modes = {1} 2_Beyond_Visual_Range_Mode = {2} 3_Close_Air_Combat_Vertical_Scan_Mode = {3} 4_Close_Air_Combat_Bore_Mode = {4} 6_Longitudinal_Missile_Aiming_Mode = {6} Radar_RWS_TWS_Mode_Select = {RALT i} The Cougar has its own memory, and once the Macros have been downloaded onto it by Foxy, it will remember them and thus there is no need to load any software at all prior to running DCS, unlike the case with TARGET. If you choose to give it a try, here I wrote a piece on how to install the Cougar software on a current Windows: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=181049 Best regards Edited March 6, 2018 by Rudel_chw For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Sierra99 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Posted March 6, 2018 The TM Cougar guts can be programmed using the TM Foxy software, which is easier to use than the newer TARGET software and it wouldnt impact on your other Hotas. The Cougar has two operating modes: DirectX and programmable mode. The mode is selectable using the Cougar Control Panel utility. The programmable mode basically turns the Cougar into a keyboard, and you could program the buttons to toggle netween two commands easily, using a Macro ... it can also produce two separate commands on a single button, for example release a chaff and a flare with a single button. The programming is done through the TM Foxy utility, for example the programming that you want would look like this: This means that the Hat2, on the Up position produces the key for BVR Mode, and if you press it again it generates the key for Bore Mode, and with each new press it Toggles between these two commands. On the same way, the Down position of Hat2 will toggle between Veryical Scan and TWS Mode. For this to work, on the Foxy macro sheet there should be these lines, that tell the software which keys to "press" for each command: The Cougar has its own memory, and once the Macros have been downloaded onto it by Foxy, it will remember them and thus there is no need to load any software at all prior to running DCS, unlike the case with TARGET. If you choose to give it a try, here I wrote a piece on how to install the Cougar software on a current Windows: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=181049 Best regards Just to be clear...I am using my warthog stick base with the cougar "stick" will what you described still work? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
Rudel_chw Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Just to be clear...I am using my warthog stick base with the cougar "stick" will what you described still work? Sorry, I misunderstood your expression "stuffed the guts" ... what I said will not work, since the brains of the Cougar are actually on its base and not on the stick :( I had imagined a Suncom stick with its innards replaced by those of a Cougar :) For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Sierra99 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Posted March 6, 2018 Sorry, I misunderstood your expression "stuffed the guts" ... what I said will not work, since the brains of the Cougar are actually on its base and not on the stick :( I had imagined a Suncom stick with its innards replaced by those of a Cougar :) Yeah...I should have made that clearer. I took the Cougar PCB and switches and used them in a Suncom stick. That attaches to the warthog gimbal using a shapeways tailpiece and Gardenea hose nut. Actually works great as is just need to fine tune it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
Sierra99 Posted March 7, 2018 Author Posted March 7, 2018 Joy2Key do this with few clicks. ;) SOKOL YOU ARE THE MAN! I got it working exactly the way I want it to! REP INBOUND! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
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