15° Balayage does not auto switch to 2-bar scan, correct?

[D4n]

What title says, correct statement? (the picture in the manual .pdf is bit weird)

[feefifofum]

Correct, the raster pattern and azimuth controls are independent of each other when not in an AACQ mode.

[D4n]

Ah ok cause the M2000 manual is very weird on the radar schematic... (15° shows as 2-bar scan)

[feefifofum]

On the left side of the VTB you will see an indication of your antenna's vertical steering and the raster pattern. Feel free to double check me, I haven't spent a lot of time in the Mirage lately.

[D4n]

VTB=radar screen?

[jojo]

VTB=radar screen?

 

yes

 

- 4 = 4 bars scan

- 2 = 2 bars scan

- = 1 bar scan

[D4n]

Aaaah yes sorry I forgot! Btw the radar was developed by Thales or by which company? :)

[feefifofum]

Per Wikipedia (the leading authority on military technology :lol: ) yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_Doppler_Multifunction.

RDM developed by Thomson-CSF, now called Thales; evolved into the RDI/RDY.

[myHelljumper]

RDM developed by Thomson-CSF, now called Thales; evolved into the RDI/RDY.

 

Our mirage have the RDI, not the RDM.

 

I'm not sure what you were implying with you sentence so better safe than sorry :).

[feefifofum]

The RDI was born from the RDM per my amazing source. :thumbup:

The RDI doesn't have its own page.

Edited March 14, 2018 by feefifofum

[myHelljumper]

The RDI was born from the RDM per my amazing source. :thumbup:

The RDI doesn't have its own page.

 

That's correct, RDM was quickly replaced by the RDI because the pilots called it "Radar De Merde" (i will let you google translate that ;)) but I'm sure you amazing source also does not say that :D.

[jojo]

The RDI was born from the RDM per my amazing source. :thumbup:

The RDI doesn't have its own page.

 

No.

 

The RDM is LRF radar, which can guide Super 530F missile borrowed from Mirage F1 (French Mirage 2000C #1 to #37), or Super 530D with CWI option (export Mirage 2000E). Export RDM were more sophisticated with more options (air to sea, DBS etc...)

 

It was a stop gap pending RDI development which was the first true French look down/ shoot down radar.

 

RDI was a new Doppler HRF radar. Only common point is it fits into Mirage 2000C nose.

[feefifofum]

:lol: Like I said, the foremost source of correct information on military technology. I understand they are different RADAR systems, but I'm sure they took some things they learned from the RDM and applied them to the RDI, which is all that was intended to imply.

The RDI doesn't have its own wiki page, and the RDY page doesn't reference the RDI at all, hence the decision to link the RDM page.

 

Point was it was indeed developed by Thomson/Thales.

I know enough French not to require translate for that one...good stuff. ;)

Edited March 14, 2018 by feefifofum

[myHelljumper]

I stand corrected then, thanks Jojo :).

[jojo]

:lol: Like I said, the foremost source of correct information on military technology. I understand they are different RADAR systems, but I'm sure they took some things they learned from the RDM and applied them to the RDI, which is all that was intended to imply.

The RDI doesn't have its own wiki page, and the RDY page doesn't reference the RDI at all, hence the decision to link the RDM page.

 

Point was it was indeed developed by Thomson/Thales.

I know enough French not to require translate for that one...good stuff. ;)

 

RDI and RDM installations are interchangeable but they have little in common electronically.

 

Some good reading, better than Wiki (or Wiki data comes from that kind of stuff anyway).

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1983/1983%20-%200550.html

 

https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_old_pdf.cfm?ARC_ID=1642

 

And about missiles:

https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=593

 

About RDI range: 120km (65Nm) is the advertised range against head on fighter target (see FLight Global article). The maximum range is 80Nm..

[D4n]

Lol RDI in DCS not detecting fighters at 120km... :P And what is RDY? ("feefifofum" wrote "RDY"...)

 

"Radar De Merde" LOL, what exactly was the problem(s) ?

[jojo]

Lol RDI in DCS not detecting fighters at 120km... :P And what is RDY? ("feefifofum" wrote "RDY"...)

 

"Radar De Merde" LOL, what exactly was the problem(s) ?

 

From what I read on other sources, IRL the typical detection range is lower too.

That's like advertised car's average fuel consumption :lol:

 

RDY is Mirage 2000-5 radar, designed to work with Fox 3 Mica missile, and multi-targeting capable. It can automatically switch between high, med and low PRF depending on range & elevation settings or targets maneuvers.

But it isn't just a new radar, it's a whole new weapon system.