SharpeXB Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Wing said: It is not about whether or not ED will do it. We are more hopeful for a 3rd party to take on a Heavy module project. Likely a 3rd party will have the same reasoning as ED. Why would they think differently? i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
Wing Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 Just now, SharpeXB said: Likely a 3rd party will have the same reasoning as ED. Why would they think differently? Same was said about the F14 multicrew. Quit being a debby downer, and have faith. 1 www.v303rdFighterGroup.com | v303 FG Discord
SharpeXB Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Wing said: Same was said about the F14 multicrew. Quit being a debby downer, and have faith. I’m not aware of the F14 discussion but again according to Simon it fits the ethos of what DCS does, it makes stuff go boom. ED had multi crew ability already so I don’t know what the issue was. But speaking of multi crew apparently the F14 isn’t so successful at getting human players to do the RIO. A B-52 is crewed by 5 people. How do you create that realistically within DCS? i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
Wing Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SharpeXB said: I’m not aware of the F14 discussion but again according to Simon it fits the ethos of what DCS does, it makes stuff go boom. ED had multi crew ability already so I don’t know what the issue was. But speaking of multi crew apparently the F14 isn’t so successful at getting human players to do the RIO. A B-52 is crewed by 5 people. How do you create that realistically within DCS? This link (the poll shows interest): And the current DCS C130 mod community say otherwise. Also when it comes to the multicrew functionality of a B52 specifically, there are work arounds for lack of player crew slots. I.E. you can get away with a PILOT, and RNAV multicrew for a sortie, with the remaining crew stations AI controlled. Instead of being closed minded, why not have some faith for some sort of Heavy module someday? I dont get it with you keyboard warriors. Especially those that enjoy telling real world SMEs that worked the BUFF, that the current map sizes are not realistic. Gets exhausting with you guys... Edited May 29, 2021 by Wing 1 www.v303rdFighterGroup.com | v303 FG Discord
Tippis Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, SharpeXB said: Just pointing out what they said. Put whatever meaning you like to it. But you didn't really do that. You misrepresented what they said. That's something very different. 9 minutes ago, SharpeXB said: For what it’s worth, the stuff that ED is actually working on takes years to accomplish. So the stuff they say they have no plans to do? …might very well be in the works already since we now have things that they “had no plans to do” and which have come about very quickly after they were revealed. So if the stuff ED is actually working on does actually take years to accomplish, then guess what? They were working on those while at the same time saying that they had plans on doing so. So their saying that there are no plans doesn't mean a whole lot… and that's before we even get into the simple fact that plans change, so what they “plan” to do is largely meaningless to begin with. 9 minutes ago, SharpeXB said: The reasons they give are relevant too. Some of those reasons can be overcome some aren’t so easy. In the case of heavy aircraft one reason he gives is that these are simply the domain of another sim. You mean like small, lightweight, low-power, non-combat, aerobatics planes that… oh wait… we have those in the game. Hmm. Strange how flexible that “domain” is. 3 minutes ago, SharpeXB said: I’m not aware of the F14 discussion but again according to Simon it fits the ethos of what DCS does, it makes stuff go boom. So just like the B-52, then, only the F-14 does it on a vastly smaller scale? As the F-14 demonstrates, it's pretty darn easy to get human players to play the RIO, and even if you can't, there's AI replacement that can do it reasonably well. For stations like in the B-52 that are more about redundancy and doing various mechanical functions, there's a trivial solution to filling those positions. 2 ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
Rick50 Posted May 29, 2021 Posted May 29, 2021 Ok gentlemen, put your mouse clicks on the line, I've started a poll about a hypothetical B-52 module, so go vote, and then promote the poll to others who aren't in this discussion yet! Let's see how much support, and real dollars, such a project would get. https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/272719-boeing-b-52-stratofortress-as-a-full-fidellity-paid-module-would-you-buy/
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