504Goon Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 I'd just like to know which fixes/impovements the community desires the most. I think these are the mostly debated issues, so pick your choise.. :) 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
Aeroscout Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Oll the others, except all aspect chaff, are real. actuall, there should be a blinking ECM submode. DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
504Goon Posted March 31, 2007 Author Posted March 31, 2007 It's not blinking as we have in lomac.. And chaff works only in the beam.. but there are people who can exlpain the reasons behind it to you way better than i can. 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
Aeroscout Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 O dont know how to explain it either... well, I assume if you flying directally twards the target, the missile doesn't see the chaff because your plane is covering it. same with flying away from it. the missile sees the bigger target behind it and goes for that instead... That's just my guess though... DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
GGTharos Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 When you drop chaff in front of behind you (in line with the missile) the RCS is more of a 'point' since all the chaff is lined up. On the beam, not only is there less doppler difference between the chaff and aircraft, but you also get a huge RCS (all across the sky!) which might affect the missile's ability to determine the rcs centroid of the target (and thus go for something else) Another possibility is flying inside a huge cloud of chaff, but then we're talking /huge/ cloud ... not something a fighter can easily produce - we're talking vietnam style chaff corridors. And what other stuff is 'real' anyway? Pretty much everything Goon's put up here needs fixing. And, where you read 'F-15' also read 'F-15 and Su-27' In addition, some of these go downright together - such as fixing 'all aspect chaff' and 'disable ET maddogging'. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
504Goon Posted March 31, 2007 Author Posted March 31, 2007 In addition, some of these go downright together - such as fixing 'all aspect chaff' and 'disable ET maddogging'. I thought about putting that in, but there has been so little discussion about it.. maybe i should start another thread about it:D 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
GGTharos Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 You could make a few polls and then a poll to vote on which poll people think is most important! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
504Goon Posted March 31, 2007 Author Posted March 31, 2007 Somehow that reminds me of "the even more democratic ET...":D 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
hitman Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 F-15 performance. If a sim is going to reproduce realism as much as possible then they shouldnt balance ANYTHING. If you give the other guy 50% chance of winning then you have 50% chance of losing and nobody needs a fair fight. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
Pilotasso Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 I'd just like to know which fixes/impovements the community desires the most. I think these are the mostly debated issues, so pick your choise.. :) Tough choice... they are all pretty mandatory though the high altitude F-15 perfomance being the most difficult to achieve (afm) and unlikely to ever get in LOMAC same as IFF. All others we were already been told they were being adressed. .
GGTharos Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 F-15 performance is on par with Su-27 performance; those two need to be fixed together in that respect. You can't fix one and not the other. I think however with the SFM it might not be posisble to do without introducing other weird effects, like significant overspeeds etc ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Aeroscout Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 What's ET maddoging? DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
hitman Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Think SpAAMRAAM on a larger scale. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
TucksonSonny Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Disable ECM blinking of course (setting 2sec min interval) DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
Pilotasso Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 ^^^^that alone wouldnt work, it would still break the lock every 2 seconds. Not much time to do anything. .
Aeroscout Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Think SpAAMRAAM on a larger scale. :huh: (ya, go ahead, call me stupid :cry:) :D DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Ice Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 I'd just like to know which fixes/impovements the community desires the most. I think these are the mostly debated issues, so pick your choise.. :) I think there's one more that should be added. Increase G Tolerances for Pilots. Out of what we have there I would have to say IFF For F15 has the most impact on overall gameplay.
GGTharos Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 No, if you want *realistic* BVR, the IFF isn't it - the chaff is the problem, and that is quite simply -all- there is to it. The ET maddogging thing needs to go due to realism and nuissance issues, and the ECM blinking thing needs to go because it is a nuissance. IFF doesn't have quite the impact that these things do. -If- you want somewhat realistic BVR. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Ice Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 No, if you want *realistic* BVR, the IFF isn't it - the chaff is the problem, and that is quite simply -all- there is to it. The ET maddogging thing needs to go due to realism and nuissance issues, and the ECM blinking thing needs to go because it is a nuissance. IFF doesn't have quite the impact that these things do. -If- you want somewhat realistic BVR. In your Opinion :music_whistling:
Ice Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 I dont see what the "community desires" has got to do with how many RAAF missions I've flown? The "community" does not need to be dictated to by anyone. I think we will find most of us are giving an "opinion". Thats what poles are. A measure of the "communitys opinion". GG's post comes across as Laying down the law. Not an opinion. I felt it necessary to help clarify that everyones post here is just that. An opinion.
hitman Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 My grand slam was supposed to come with sausage. :| Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
504Goon Posted April 1, 2007 Author Posted April 1, 2007 From my point of view, the all aspect chaff is the biggest problem right now. It effectively renders radar missiles useless when flying agains a skilled opponent. Right now BVR shots don't even make the opposing fighter defensive. They'll just turn slightly to either side and pump chaff. I sure hope the problem will be fixed, because right now, heaters are way better than any radar missile due this problem. And that's really far away from realistic. Not so long ago we had a squadmatch against a well known and experienced squadron, and most of the kills were done with IR missiles. Radar missiles were pretty much useless. As far as i know, IRL when IFF is not a problem and ROE allows, the fights stay pretty much BVR with radar missiles. 1 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
Pilotasso Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 From my point of view, the all aspect chaff is the biggest problem right now. It effectively renders radar missiles useless when flying agains a skilled opponent. Right now BVR shots don't even make the opposing fighter defensive. They'll just turn slightly to either side and pump chaff. I sure hope the problem will be fixed, because right now, heaters are way better than any radar missile due this problem. And that's really far away from realistic. Not so long ago we had a squadmatch against a well known and experienced squadron, and most of the kills were done with IR missiles. Radar missiles were pretty much useless. As far as i know, IRL when IFF is not a problem and ROE allows, the fights stay pretty much BVR with radar missiles. If in BS the proposed IR seekers lockon delays have been implemented, along with maddog Inhibition you will have to resort back to radar missiles. If you think thats bad on Flankers and migs then imagine for those who fly F-15 who dont have any alternative but to use radar missiles with half the range and resistence of the russian ones. My advice is start to get used to use Radar missiles in order not to become totaly dependent on IR missiles in BS. Oh, BTW ECM blinking as well.(it will be cut out) ;) .
504Goon Posted April 1, 2007 Author Posted April 1, 2007 My advice is start to get used to use Radar missiles in order not to become totaly dependent on IR missiles in BS. Oh, BTW ECM blinking as well.(it will be cut out) ;) Thanks for the advice! Though i must say that beeing dependent on IR missiles and ECM blinking has never really been my thing..;) Even if i fly the 29 only, doesn't mean that i'm heavily biased towards it, and will start crying if it gets downgraded in some areas and the F-15 will be upgraded.. In fact, i'll be happy about that. Killing an F-15 shouldn't be child's play..;) My point is, that even when/if those two are going to be fixed, the radar missiles are still going to be crippled. 504th CO http://www.vvs504.co.uk
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