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(... in addition to the current mouse clicks)

 

Realistic? probably not. Practical? oh yes.

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P.S. In VR, there really is a need to be able to (single) click these switches whilst not looking straight at them.

 

Thinking about it, I'd say it's better to just have them be controlled exactly like rotaries.

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You can already click once and hold and they will move.

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I think the current controls are ok. I use VR and it's a lot easier to just hold a mouse button rather than trying to keep your head still while using the scroll wheel.

 

Anyone know why they're not rotary encoders in the real thing?

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I use VR and it's a lot easier to just hold a mouse button rather than trying to keep your head still while using the scroll wheel.

 

Yes. But what if you want to do, say, five separate clicks, because you know you want to go up by 5 degrees?

 

With rotaries you can left click and hold (which does not activate them), look away, then turn the mouse wheel, or drag the mouse to "move" them. Works great in VR. I only realised this was possible a few days ago (and you can see on the left that I've been around here for a while - doh!)

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Anyone know why they're not rotary encoders in the real thing?

 

 

I reckon that when they were designing the cockpit, someone suggested it as joke, then came back a few weeks later to find he'd been taken seriously.

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I reckon that when they were designing the cockpit, someone suggested it as joke, then came back a few weeks later to find he'd been taken seriously.

Yep, they are absolutely awful to use in real life - uber-un-ergonomic...

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Yes. But what if you want to do, say, five separate clicks, because you know you want to go up by 5 degrees?

 

 

Click and hold, and then type the new azimuth via UFC.

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Click and hold, and then type the new azimuth via UFC.

 

 

I didn't realise that, so thank you for informing me.

 

 

However, it isn't actually an answer to my question, which I'll rephrase slightly:

 

 

But what if you want to do, say, five separate clicks using the switch, whilst looking at the HSI, because you know you want to go up by 5 degrees?

 

 

This is something that can be accomplished very easily IRL by:

 

 

placing (and holding) hand on switch

looking at HSI

activating switch the number of times required (whilst not having to look at it)

 

 

In VR it is very difficult (if not impossible) to do this - hence my request.

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I advise using a keybinding or some form or controller input for the purpose of setting corse/hdg.

 

Something easy to reach or feel for.

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