IceFire Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 I have a question based on the stream we just witnessed. The B-Model was the plane flying but we're seeing an A model cockpit. Will the B cockpit be implemented? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Matt "IceFire" Schuette Commander In Chief United States Atlantic Command Virtual Carrier Air Wing Eleven
SilentGun Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 from the ED F-14 preorder page: The simulation of both the A* and B model Tomcat, the A model following the B later during the Early Access period. Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:)
IceFire Posted October 7, 2018 Author Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Wait.. That's bass-ackwards from what Heatblur said. Heatblur said that the B model would be first and the A would come later. Either way, in the stream they're obviously flying B models. with A model cockpits. Edited October 7, 2018 by IceFire [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Matt "IceFire" Schuette Commander In Chief United States Atlantic Command Virtual Carrier Air Wing Eleven
Flashman1606688763 Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 "The A model following the B later during the Early Access period" means that the A model will be released after the B. F/A-18C, M-2000C, F5-E, AV-8B, AJS-37, L-39 Flaming Cliffs 3 Il-2 BoS, Il-2 BoK, Il-2 BoB
IceFire Posted October 7, 2018 Author Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Ah misunderstood but, that's not the question. The question is. They are flying the B model in the videos and all of the promotional stuff. But we have yet to see a B model cockpit. The cockpits in the video are A model cockpits Edited October 7, 2018 by IceFire [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Matt "IceFire" Schuette Commander In Chief United States Atlantic Command Virtual Carrier Air Wing Eleven
IceFire Posted October 7, 2018 Author Posted October 7, 2018 They are not at all identical The image I posted above has been confirmed by two tomcat maintenance guys, AT and AE in CVW-11. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Matt "IceFire" Schuette Commander In Chief United States Atlantic Command Virtual Carrier Air Wing Eleven
JG27_Arklight Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 A and B cockpits are identical, some B's received Sparrowhawk HUD but obviosly not the one we get. D model has more digital stuff. That's not true. I was wondering the same thing as Icefire. Ark ------------------ Windows 10 Pro x64 9900K @ 5ghz Gigabyte Aorus Master Z390 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB CAS 14 EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra XC2 256gb Samsung 869 Pro (Boot Drive) 1TB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus Seasoninc 1000w Titanium Ultra PSU 34" ASUS PG348
JG27_Arklight Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 IceFire, you may want to post this in the F-14 Section. Ark ------------------ Windows 10 Pro x64 9900K @ 5ghz Gigabyte Aorus Master Z390 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB CAS 14 EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra XC2 256gb Samsung 869 Pro (Boot Drive) 1TB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus Seasoninc 1000w Titanium Ultra PSU 34" ASUS PG348
IceFire Posted October 7, 2018 Author Posted October 7, 2018 Done, sorry posted in the wrong section x.x [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Matt "IceFire" Schuette Commander In Chief United States Atlantic Command Virtual Carrier Air Wing Eleven
Mking Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Yes i miss the rwr display in the stream.. :/ System Hydro H115i with 8700k @ 4,9 ghz all cores, Asus strix Z370 f, 32gb ddr4 3600Mhz, Asusrog swift 34 gsync ,Vr hp Reverb .Palit gaming pro 2080 ti Thrustmaster Warthog f18grip and th pedal Steamvr ss 100% and dcs world ss 180% tomcat eats the viper for breakfast :P Lange lebe die Tomcat": Long live the Cat!
Overvolt Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Ah misunderstood but, that's not the question. The question is. They are flying the B model in the videos and all of the promotional stuff. But we have yet to see a B model cockpit. The cockpits in the video are A model cockpits Very cool this comparison. Thank you for disclosing Intel i7 7700K | ASUS MAXIMUN IX Hero | GSkill RBG 3000mhz 32G(4x8G) | MSI Trio 1080ti | 1x M.2 SSD Samsung 960PRO 512G | 1 x WesterDigital 4T | Corsair AX-850W | Monitor Alienware 34" aw3418dw | Oblisidian 800D |CORSAIR H80 | Teclado Logitech G15 |Mouse Razer DeathAdder Elite | Trackir 5 + Clip pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Pedal MFG Crosswind
Chameleon257 Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Silly question but I don't see it anywhere is it a clickable pit? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Life's an illusion, it's the pain that's real.
BoneDust Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Is the cockpit fully functional? I've been hearing it is not functional. I'd like to know because I'll be asking for a refund if its not functional. cheers Alienware New Aurora R15 | Windows® 11 Home Premium | 64bit, 13thGen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 13900KF(24-Core, 68MB| NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 4090, 24GB GDDR6X | 1 X 2TB SSD, 1X 1TB SSD | 64GB, 2x32GB, DDR5, 4800MHz | 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech (TM) Edition CPU Liquid Cooling power supply | Pimax Crystal VR
Revelation Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Silly question but I don't see it anywhere is it a clickable pit? It is a clickable pit. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
BoneDust Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 It is a clickable pit. Oh, that's great news bud. I was worried because I read a few post that the pit isn't fully functional and I thought dang it I need to confirm this. Looks like these folks did a great job. I really like to pilot movements; very cool. cheers Alienware New Aurora R15 | Windows® 11 Home Premium | 64bit, 13thGen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 13900KF(24-Core, 68MB| NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 4090, 24GB GDDR6X | 1 X 2TB SSD, 1X 1TB SSD | 64GB, 2x32GB, DDR5, 4800MHz | 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech (TM) Edition CPU Liquid Cooling power supply | Pimax Crystal VR
Revelation Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Oh, that's great news bud. I was worried because I read a few post that the pit isn't fully functional and I thought dang it I need to confirm this. Looks like these folks did a great job. I really like to pilot movements; very cool. cheers The F-14B pit isn't fully functional, as in not complete, and that is why the F-14A pit was used in the demonstration videos even though we are to get the 'B' first in early access. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
BoneDust Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 The F-14B pit isn't fully functional, as in not complete, and that is why the F-14A pit was used in the demonstration videos even though we are to get the 'B' first in early access. Ok, but will it be when its completed. People are saying it will be like the F15. That's what I'm trying to determine. Alienware New Aurora R15 | Windows® 11 Home Premium | 64bit, 13thGen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 13900KF(24-Core, 68MB| NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 4090, 24GB GDDR6X | 1 X 2TB SSD, 1X 1TB SSD | 64GB, 2x32GB, DDR5, 4800MHz | 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech (TM) Edition CPU Liquid Cooling power supply | Pimax Crystal VR
Revelation Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Ok, but will it be when its completed. People are saying it will be like the F15. That's what I'm trying to determine. It will be clickable when it is complete. This is not a FC3 level module. Anyone saying that it will be like the F-15 when it is done hasn't been paying attention. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Ok, but will it be when its completed. People are saying it will be like the F15. That's what I'm trying to determine. Where are people saying that? That's a group whose insight should be taken with a grain of salt. It's honestly best to just ignore the flight sim rumor mill. The kind of explanations I've, personally, seen concocted could fill up a terrible primetime TV show which would then be hosted by Jesse Ventura. EDIT: For the record, the only time Heatblur has ever mentioned an FC3 level aircraft, was possibly bringing an FC3 level JA-37 Viggen into DCS. That was a long time ago and their subsequent release of the AJS-37 is a full clickable pit. When they were still Leatherneck, the MiG-21 was fully clickable. On top of that, Just read the E-Shop page where it describes the product. You don't put that much detail into something for a static cockpit. So, rest assured that it'll full fidelity in that regard. Edited October 8, 2018 by MiG21bisFishbedL Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
Chameleon257 Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 It is a clickable pit. Great just making sure thanks :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Life's an illusion, it's the pain that's real.
IceFire Posted October 8, 2018 Author Posted October 8, 2018 Chameleon, I think you're referring to an F14 mod that is out currently that uses the F15 cockpit. This is not that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Matt "IceFire" Schuette Commander In Chief United States Atlantic Command Virtual Carrier Air Wing Eleven
Bananabrai Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 How do you even get to the idea, that it could not be clickable? You guys bought that product, and you are obviously into DCS and love the F-14. How can you miss, that it is full fidelity? It's like I would tell a car dealer I'd love that (insert car) , and I bought one, but someone told me it doesn't feature a steering wheel :lol: ONLY FC3 / the upcoming DCS: MAC and the Su-25T are low fidelity. :pilotfly: Alias in Discord: Mailman
GuyIncognito Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 I think it's a legit question, if only because I had the same one haha. I'm not hardcore into DCS but I have most of the modules and have spent quite a bit of time in them. The question for me comes from the absence of any reference to a clickable cockpit on the store page. Here's what the page says for F-14: "Highly detailed and accurate 6-DOF (Degrees of Freedom) cockpit also built using photogrammetry from the F-14 Tomcats preserved at museums." Compare vs. F/A-18: "A highly realistic and exhaustively researched cockpit that is mouse interactive with 6 degrees of freedom. Interact with the cockpit by pressing buttons and moving switches. You will feel like part of the aircraft with our Advanced Systems Modeling (ASM)." Or vs. Yak-52: "Realistic, mouse-interactive cockpit in which almost all controls can be interacted with." Or vs. F-5: "Interact with cockpit controls with your mouse" So I don't doubt that you guys are correct that the cockpit will be fully interactive, but it did stand out to me that their description of the module doesn't mention that, especially when it's so prominently mentioned on the store pages of other modules.
BoneDust Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 I think it's a legit question, if only because I had the same one haha. I'm not hardcore into DCS but I have most of the modules and have spent quite a bit of time in them. The question for me comes from the absence of any reference to a clickable cockpit on the store page. Here's what the page says for F-14: "Highly detailed and accurate 6-DOF (Degrees of Freedom) cockpit also built using photogrammetry from the F-14 Tomcats preserved at museums." Compare vs. F/A-18: "A highly realistic and exhaustively researched cockpit that is mouse interactive with 6 degrees of freedom. Interact with the cockpit by pressing buttons and moving switches. You will feel like part of the aircraft with our Advanced Systems Modeling (ASM)." Or vs. Yak-52: "Realistic, mouse-interactive cockpit in which almost all controls can be interacted with." Or vs. F-5: "Interact with cockpit controls with your mouse" So I don't doubt that you guys are correct that the cockpit will be fully interactive, but it did stand out to me that their description of the module doesn't mention that, especially when it's so prominently mentioned on the store pages of other modules. +1 Thank you bud. Alienware New Aurora R15 | Windows® 11 Home Premium | 64bit, 13thGen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 13900KF(24-Core, 68MB| NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 4090, 24GB GDDR6X | 1 X 2TB SSD, 1X 1TB SSD | 64GB, 2x32GB, DDR5, 4800MHz | 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech (TM) Edition CPU Liquid Cooling power supply | Pimax Crystal VR
Goa Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 is the question a joke or what? all the modules exepct FC3 are all full fidelity clickable cockpit....... CPU : Intel i7 8700k@5.0ghz cooled by Noctua NH-D15 / Motherboard:Asorck Z370 Taichi / RAM: 32GB GSkill TridentZ @3600mhz / SSD: 500GB Nvme Samsung 970 evo+1 TB Sabrent Nvme M2 / GPU:Asus Strix OC 2080TI / Monitor: LG 34KG950F Ultrawide / Trackir 5 proclip/ VIRPIL CM2 BASE + CM2 GRIP + F148 GRIP + 200M EXTENSION /VKB T-Rudder MKIV rudder /Case: Fractal Design R6 Define black
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