A little help about T-50 cams

[GriffonBR]

Hi guys, I'm in a dilemma between my T-50 base cams and I need an opinion from the other users.

 

I have been using this excellent piece of hardware with my Warthog grip for about 4 months without any problems at all, my overall experience with DCS and the other sims that I usually play better now, but only in DCS I've been having some hard time with aerial refueling.

 

Do you guys use most of the default setup with soft springs and soft center or did you change it for the hard center cam like in the most joysticks in the market? For me with the soft center I fell a little hard to "probe-and-drogue" with the soft center cam.

I know that is a procedure that requires a lot of practice, but even the most little input on the stick produces the "wobble effect" on the center that makes the procedure more difficult to be done.

 

Do you guys recommend the hard center or is it just a question of more training? Take off, landing on carriers, etc etc it's not a problem, even with helicopters I manage very well, but it's just the REVO that I think a little bit hard to be done with this cam setup.

 

Thanks!:thumbup:

Edited January 7, 2019 by GriffonBR

[Seb71]

At least on mine, the default (factory) setup was with medium springs (not soft springs) and soft center cams.

 

You should try yourself different cams and springs.

 

But if you never changed cams, be careful. You need to heat the cam screws (I used a heat gun), use a good Phillips screwdriver of correct size and if it feels it is too hard to start unscrewing, stop and apply more heat, not more torque.

[GriffonBR]

My bad, my bad, it's the medium springs with soft center, the factory standard.

 

I know that a lot of people had a really hard time trying to changing the cams, and that's why I need a opinion about to see if really worth the effort lol. Thanks mate.

 

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[Flia]

Hi. Im happy user of T-50 base too. With Hotas warthog grip mounted on it. And im too using factory default. I never opened and changed anything inside the base. I feel the default cams and springs perfect for my needs.

[mdee]

I've used default ones (soft center) for a while, then changed to no center and stayed with them. No problems with AAR with either.

[Seb71]

The springs are very easy to change. If you are worried about changing cams, at least try different springs. You can also use one type of spring (or cam) on one axis and another type on the other axis.

 

I have a Warthog grip (without extensions) and the default (Medium) springs seemed a little too strong for my liking. So I am using the Soft springs.

 

This will be slightly different with a MongoosT-50 grip, which is quite longer than a Warthog grip (something like a Warthog grip + 50 mm extension).

 

No matter which grip, I can't see myself using the Heavy springs without an extension (and not a short extension).

[GriffonBR]

Problem solved guys!

 

To solve this pickle I just had to adjust the tension of the pitch axis in the T-50 base, I forgot that the weight of the Warthog grip put the axis a little bit foward so that was the problem that did not allowed to keep the drogue in the basket. After a new callibration to leave all axis at 50% (before the pitch axis was at 49%) everthing is peice of cake now. : thumbup:

 

Thanks for the replys.:thumbup:

[Ala12Rv-Tundra]

Problem solved guys!

 

To solve this pickle I just had to adjust the tension of the pitch axis in the T-50 base, I forgot that the weight of the Warthog grip put the axis a little bit foward so that was the problem that did not allowed to keep the drogue in the basket. After a new callibration to leave all axis at 50% (before the pitch axis was at 49%) everthing is peice of cake now. : thumbup:

 

Thanks for the replys.:thumbup:

So you fine-tuned the screw while taking a look and the VPC Joy Setup windows that displays real time inputs chart?

[GriffonBR]

So you fine-tuned the screw while taking a look and the VPC Joy Setup windows that displays real time inputs chart?

 

Just this man, I didn't have to open the base to change anything. I realized that the pitch axis was a little bit foward because of the mass of the Warthog stick, at the VPC Software the axis was at 49%, I made made this tune at the base, a new calibration and after that the axis was set to 50%, perfectly aligned.:thumbup:

[Buckeye]

Stock (soft) cams for me, with the strongest springs installed, with the WH grip.

 

I then fully tension the pitch axis spring, and only give a few rotations of tension on the roll spring. A realistic balance is that the roll axis will feel about 50% as tensioned as the pitch axis.

[Seb71]

Just this man, I didn't have to open the base to change anything. I realized that the pitch axis was a little bit foward because of the mass of the Warthog stick, at the VPC Software the axis was at 49%, I made made this tune at the base, a new calibration and after that the axis was set to 50%, perfectly aligned.:thumbup:

That's the wrong way to do it.

 

You adjust the springs first, to get the desired feel and then you make a calibration. During calibration, after you moved through all range on both axes, you must let go of the grip, wait for it to stabilize and only then you click the "Set center and save to profile" button, followed by "Step 3: Save device profile" button.

 

Unless you are using extensions, the medium springs you said you are using (with soft center cams) have no problem keeping the Warthog grip centered, even when adjusted to the minimum. I have the same setup now, but with soft springs.

[GriffonBR]

Unless you are using extensions, the medium springs you said you are using (with soft center cams) have no problem keeping the Warthog grip centered, even when adjusted to the minimum. I have the same setup now, but with soft springs.

 

I use a 75mm MFG Warthog extension now adapted to 50mm for better ergonomics with my setup (Wheel Stand Pro + Gaming Chair)

 

Anyway it's solved now! It was easier and less problematic than I expected.:joystick:

Edited January 17, 2019 by GriffonBR