D4n Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 As can be seen here, on left side of my screen. I flew Mi-8, hit target (UH-1) with UPK. (occured on BlueFlag caucasus server) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted January 13, 2019 Author Posted January 13, 2019 edited description. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted January 13, 2019 Author Posted January 13, 2019 Also red message appeared "DanielNL Mi-8T destroyed", when the UH-1 player crashed... so NOPE, it was NOT me who got destroyed, it was the UH-1! DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Nirvi Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 Uncheck realtime bomb damage assistance Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos
Lixma 06 Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 In Options/Misc see if this box is checked... It was introduced, and enabled by default, in the last patch.
D4n Posted January 13, 2019 Author Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) This should NOT overwrite the existing enforced MP serversetting called "client kill-messages off"! Please fix asap (not to overwrite server-setting), this is ruining the realism and is an advantage for everyone who has it enabled currently. Edited April 6, 2019 by DanielNL DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted January 13, 2019 Author Posted January 13, 2019 Kinda... I mean if a pilot's fire-n-forget missile flies at you, you dive behind a hill, missile followes but bandit aircraft looses line-of-sight, you don't want him to know when his missile misses you, right? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
ams999 Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 DanielNL, sometimes when I read your posts I get the impression that you are close to a heart attack :lol: Anyway, there is no bug. 1. "What the...? This should NOT overwrite the existing enforced MP serversetting called "client kill-messages off"!" Those two are not related, the "client kill-messages" are those in the chat. 2. If you look in the mission editor you'll notice in the options that, as with "Cockpit status bar" etc., there is the option to switch off 'realtime bomb damage assistance' and to enforce that option. Problem solved, I guess. "[...] because, basically, in this day and age, if you get to the merge and no one's died - it's not good for anybody." - Keith 'Okie' Nance "Nun siegt mal schön!" - Theodor Heuss, September 1958 "Nobody has any intention of building a wall." - Walter Ulbricht, June 1961 "Russia has no plans to invade either Ukraine or any other country." - Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the EU, January 2022
D4n Posted January 13, 2019 Author Posted January 13, 2019 Those two are not related, the "client kill-messages" are those in the chat. Oh ok, didn't know that ED added a 2nd system for showing kills now. (1 system was enough imo) 2. If you look in the mission editor you'll notice in the options that, as with "Cockpit status bar" etc., there is the option to switch off 'realtime bomb damage assistance' and to enforce that option. Ah wow thanks! As I created this bugreport solely with multiplayer in mind, I hope somebody mentions that mission editor setting to the BlueFlag admins (to ask them to enforce disable that option). Problem solved, I guess. Yes, thanks! (sorry if you think I'm getting a heartattack) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Grimes Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Reported. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
D4n Posted January 15, 2019 Author Posted January 15, 2019 Thank you DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
QuiGon Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Reported. Now I wonder what you did report, as there is no bug, because server admins can already enforce disabling those messages through the respective setting in the mission editor? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
ams999 Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 As I was wondering that myself I did a short test with a simple single player mission (Huey and some enemy trucks) and I have to admit that the 'enforce' option for rtbda in a mission doesn't enforce at the moment, i.e. the messages are still shown in mission with enforce 'off' when they're switched on generally (and, vice versa, are not shown even if you enforce 'on' in the mission and in general they are switched off). Labels can be enforced for example. I didn't test multi player (i.e. when I'm the client, not server) and I didn't test the enforcement of other options. "[...] because, basically, in this day and age, if you get to the merge and no one's died - it's not good for anybody." - Keith 'Okie' Nance "Nun siegt mal schön!" - Theodor Heuss, September 1958 "Nobody has any intention of building a wall." - Walter Ulbricht, June 1961 "Russia has no plans to invade either Ukraine or any other country." - Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the EU, January 2022
Grimes Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 I reported that the BDA setting saved in the forced mission options is not being used and that clients can circumvent the option. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
D4n Posted April 6, 2019 Author Posted April 6, 2019 So now it's been over 2 months since report, can we please have this fixed? For realism PvP-servers it's unfair if users get notification that they hit a target (and then also that mouse cursor bug, but the notification client circumvention really really has priority) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Grimes Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3797108&highlight=BDA#post3797108 If it is still appearing ensure that the setting is forced in the miz file. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
D4n Posted April 7, 2019 Author Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) Apparently STILL occuring, according to a mentor in BlueFlag Discord (the huge PvP community). He just wrote "it is forced off, and yes it's a bug that it can be overridden by player settings" Edited April 7, 2019 by DanielNL DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Dagger71 Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 I haven't seen these messages since the patch. DanielNL Why do you say it's still appearing?
D4n Posted April 7, 2019 Author Posted April 7, 2019 I still see them on BlueFlag... so... DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Grimes Posted April 7, 2019 Posted April 7, 2019 If the track file from last week is to be believed the setting hasn't been enforced in the miz. At least not on the PG mission. ["forcedOptions"] = { ["fuel"] = false, ["easyRadar"] = false, ["accidental_failures"] = false, ["optionsView"] = "optview_myaircraft", ["immortal"] = false, ["easyCommunication"] = false, ["easyFlight"] = false, ["radio"] = false, ["tips"] = true, ["userMarks"] = true, ["geffect"] = "realistic", ["externalViews"] = false, ["padlock"] = false, ["civTraffic"] = "", ["weapons"] = false, ["birds"] = 0, ["labels"] = false, }, -- end of ["forcedOptions"] The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
D4n Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 so it's not a bug. just a server setting. It seems so, if you have it enabled and you don't get these messages on at least one other MP server, then yes. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
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