[KNOWN ISSUE][DCS BUG] F-14 Pilot Cold Start Tutorial

[Redglyph]

DCS 2.5.4.28461

 

Awesome setup for this training mission!

 

I saw a few quirks that I'm listing below.

 

1) The audio for the first text isn't read completely, it's cut after the 3rd phrase by the audio of the 2nd text ("As you might know the F-14...").

 

=> synchronize the audio correctly, don't use system-dependant timing or actions that could cut the text (this happens often in training missions, the Yak-52 is a very illustrative example)

 

2) The log disappears too soon. If someone has to look for a button, or just wants to take the time to enjoy the cockpit and the surroundings, it could be a problem.

 

By the way, I also saw later that Jester's "subtitles" were disappearing at once, this is even more annoying if one tries the assisted start-up procedure.

 

=> increase the text log duration, especially with Jester's. In general for those trainings, there's no use to clear the text at all, it will be replaced by the next one (there is an option in the ME for that)

 

3) "Coordinate with RIO" to check lights. How? I didn't see any option in Jester's menu. Is that only for MP?

 

4) Master Test switch to EMERG GEN,

- lights NO GO, then GO: I could not see that, not implemented yet?

 

5) The whole test with checking the voltage, having some lights illuminate for 2 seconds, the SAS changing after a MASTER RESET, were not observed at all.

 

I suppose it's not implemented yet?

Edited April 2, 2019 by IronMike
removed irrelevant part

[sze5003]

I also noticed these little issues. For #1 this also happens in the take off training. You see some text which is supposed to be RIO getting taxi authorization from the tower but a bit later you hear him speaking along with the text. First part of the training text is not spoken.

 

I think this may be an issue with all the assets still loading as I requested ground and electric power and didn't hear anything and then a few seconds later they all came in at once.

 

I noticed the same thing with the emergency gen master test position, didn't see any lights.

 

Another one for the master test, when you are told to select Stick SW, instructor says you should see some lights come on when you move the stick and then you should see the flight stability switches get disengaged and some lights should go on after you set master test off. I didn't see this happening and my flight stability for pitch /yaw remained engaged.

 

For #4 I also observed the same thing. After setting wing sweep to full forward and closing the guard(after pushing the lever down) the other part of the training text doesn't seem to make the wings respond. I think we need to push master reset everytime time you touch the wing sweep.

 

For this reason I also could not do the other parts of the testing the wings. Flaps and stabs I think relate to the movement of the flap lever. You have to manually set it to half way and you should see flaps and stabs move outside. We only have flaps up or down bindable in controls.

 

The training commands need to be broken down to smaller pieces with press space in between.

 

I had a better understanding of all the tests when I did the assisted startup in the instant action action cold start mission.

[Mr_sukebe]

Have to say that I love the way that Jester will talk you through a cold start in seemingly any mission

[Redglyph]

Have to say that I love the way that Jester will talk you through a cold start in seemingly any mission

 

Yes, that's absolutely fantastic :) And in the air too, that's really making a difference in the otherwise very sterile DCS environment.

 

Actually, everything about Heatblur's F-14B is more lively than the barren experience we usually get, it's obvious they spent a lot of time taking care of all they could think of.

[Redglyph]

I didn't see this happening and my flight stability for pitch /yaw remained engaged.

 

I think you're right. I'll try again with a checklist to make sure I don't forget anything. It's usually understood we should know that before doing the startup - on a real aircraft, but here those are obviously meant to teach that, that's why I prefer to report what issues a pilot with no experience in the Tomcat may encounter.

 

The training commands need to be broken down to smaller pieces with press space in between.

 

I had a better understanding of all the tests when I did the assisted startup in the instant action action cold start mission.

 

It's always a difficult balance I suppose. Sometimes I find other missions like for ex. the MiG-19's or the Harrier's by Baltic Dragon have sometimes too much 'SPACE' pauses for my personal taste. But the opposite is quickly overwhelming the first time, which means it fails its purpose.

 

My preferred way is the mission that detects we have accomplished the step and goes on, but it takes more time to make (when the control numbers in the ME are even known to the mission maker).

 

The assisted startup is great, except the text log disappearing instantly :/

[Wolfbite]

Yes agreed with all of the above.

 

 

Also the noz position doesnt change when testing the secondary mode?

 

 

I thought I was doing something wrong on the Emerg Gen and wing sweep texts.

 

 

Agree text dissapears a bit fast for when youre concentrating on several things. This could be corrected with ED adding a communications log.

Edited March 19, 2019 by Wolfbite

[sLYFa]

DCS 2.5.4.28461

Wing/Ext Trans switch?

 

Thats for controlling fuel transfer from the wings and external tanks, nothing to do with wingsweep

[Redglyph]

Thats for controlling fuel transfer from the wings and external tanks, nothing to do with wingsweep

 

Thanks! Yes, I realized that later, I should edit my post.