Human Rio has less G tolerance than pilot.

[Ducksen]

I use Vive VR as a pilot and the human rio in this case was using a flat sceen solution.

We noticed that I as a pilot could withstand G forces and have the light slowly dim on me as moe G loads were applied. Normal function. My poor rio had instant blackouts as soon as I started feeling the G strain. As soon as my edges got slightly darker my human rio was out cold, aka black screen. Instant.

 

We have not testet reverse roles.

 

Anyone else here who can verify this?

 

All people have different G-tolerance, but does it have to be simulated so rio blacks out way before the pilot? Don't get me wrong, opposite would be worse ;)

 

Mainly I wish to know if this is a bug or an intended feature...

[WindyTX]

We saw the same the other day with my RIO complaining that I was blacking him out. I think it may just be a slight sync problem. Having said that I have blacked out my back seater IRL so maybe it's not that unrealistic.

 

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[Nooch]

Having said that I have blacked out my back seater IRL so maybe it's not that unrealistic.

 

I've heard it happen a couple of times although I've also heard the opposite. :D

[QuiGon]

I can confirm this, because I've had that many times (my pilot is going wild sometimes :joystick:).

[FoxTwo]

Fairly certain this isn't a bug, there are multiple stories of a RIO blacking out in a merge and waking up to see the aircraft's nose on the bogey's six.

[TOViper]

Hm ... interesting point.

 

Considering both pilots sit on seats having same tilt angles (I think in the F-16 this angle is somewhere at ~25 degrees), the pilot knows when he will start pulling the stick, and can therefore prepare himself just a little earlier than the RIO, by breathing, applying muscle tension, and so on. The RIO maybe often "reacts" because he doesn't exactly know what is coming, thus lagging a little behind.

 

 

I don't know if F-14 crews talked to each other about each and every manoeuver while hunting after a boogey, but if anyone could bring light into darkness I would be happy :smartass:

 

 

P.S. Considering Goose as RIO and Maverick as pilot, it is obvious that Goose would black out earlier, just for the reason of beeing taller as Maverick (distance heart - head) ... ;-)

[Ducksen]

I like the points of view here. Educated and thought through points. Looking forward to hearing from Heatblur on this. Like mentioned, most likely a sync issue.

 

As it stands now, the pilot has to choose to either pull g's to avoid a missile or fly straight and have the rio deploy correct cms.

#%/+%#! The missile is too close, sorry buddy, nighty night. :)

 

And by the way, Jester is superhuman. He never blacks out. ;) neat party trick.

[TOViper]

And by the way, Jester is superhuman. He never blacks out. ;) neat party trick.

 

 

Yeah, that's because "his" distance heart<>head is infinitesimal.

 

Very logically. :lol:

 

 

Ok, that one was most probably too heavy ... :D

[WindyTX]

Hm ... interesting point.

 

Considering both pilots sit on seats having same tilt angles (I think in the F-16 this angle is somewhere at ~25 degrees), the pilot knows when he will start pulling the stick, and can therefore prepare himself just a little earlier than the RIO, by breathing, applying muscle tension, and so on. The RIO maybe often "reacts" because he doesn't exactly know what is coming, thus lagging a little behind.

 

 

I don't know if F-14 crews talked to each other about each and every manoeuver while hunting after a boogey, but if anyone could bring light into darkness I would be happy :smartass:

 

 

P.S. Considering Goose as RIO and Maverick as pilot, it is obvious that Goose would black out earlier, just for the reason of beeing taller as Maverick (distance heart - head) ... ;-)

Fwiw we didn't talk about what we were about to do on the F3 but most back seaters knew what was going to happen so it was unusual to surprise them. I literally only blacked out one guy in 10 years, greyed out a few but fatigue was probably a factor there.

 

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