skywalker22 Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 As much as I have tried some of the Russian fighter aircrafts (Su 27, Mig 29) they all allow executing GearUp command while still on the ground, there just isn`t anything to prevent this from happening. So gears go up and aircraft smashes to the ground. Mission over! Is this really how is it in real life? I seriously doubt! And I suppose all aircrafts have this same issue. Its kinda bothering, since I have mapped just a single button for GearUp and GearDown. Can it be fixed please?
bbrz Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) No, not all airplanes have this 'issue'. Which one are you talking about? Btw, it's way better to have it retract on ground on the apron or on the taxiway at nil or low speed, than at high speed during the takeoff run ;) If you accidently select the gear up on ground, it will IRL retract as soon as the airplane weight on wheel switches sense that you are airborne. But in can happen of course that the WoW switches only temporarily open due to runway roughness etc. This has lead to numerous accidents IRL. Nothing to fix IMO since this can happen IRL as well due to faulty WoW switches etc. You simply don't move the gear lever on ground. edit: just tested with the A-10C and the F-5E, and on both planes you can't move the landing gear lever on ground without pushing the override button first, and even in this case the gear doesn't retract on the A-10. Edited July 28, 2019 by bbrz i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
Holbeach Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) As much as I have tried some of the Russian fighter aircrafts (Su 27, Mig 29) they all allow executing GearUp command while still on the ground, there just isn`t anything to prevent this from happening. So gears go up and aircraft smashes to the ground. Mission over! Is this really how is it in real life? I seriously doubt! And I suppose all aircrafts have this same issue. Its kinda bothering, since I have mapped just a single button for GearUp and GearDown. Can it be fixed please? See if it is still the same as it was 5 years ago. Moved. .. Edited July 28, 2019 by Holbeach ASUS 2600K 3.8. P8Z68-V. ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080Ti, RAM 16gb Corsair. M2 NVME 2gb. 2 SSD. 3 HDD. 1 kW ps. X-52. Saitek pedals. ..
skywalker22 Posted July 28, 2019 Author Posted July 28, 2019 No, not all airplanes have this 'issue'. Which one are you talking about? As said, Mig 29 (all versions) and Su-27. -- No, its not quite the same any more. Gears go up, plane down, but when trying to extract them (down), they do not go (or just until they touch the ground), but you surely not able to drive, not take off.
mvsgas Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Is this really how is it in real life? I seriously doubt! Yes https://www.torch.aetc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/365131/jets-landing-gear-retracts-on-runway/ http://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/album30/aec https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/26279/can-the-landing-gear-be-pulled-up-while-the-plane-is-on-the-ground The Accident Investigation Board (AIB) President found by a preponderance of the evidence that the causes of the mishap were two procedural errors by the Mishap Pilot (MP). First, the MP had incorrect Takeoff and Landing Data (TOLD) for the conditions at NAS Fallon on the day of the mishap, and more importantly, he failed to apply any corrections to the incorrect TOLD. Second, the MP prematurely retracted the LG at an airspeed that was insufficient for the MA to maintain flight. Additionally, the AIB President found by the preponderance of the evidence that four additional factors substantially contributed to the mishap: inadequate flight brief, organizational acceptance of an incorrect technique, formal training, and organizational overconfidence in equipment. Direct PDF link to accident report https://www.kunsan.af.mil/Portals/6/180413-PACAF-JB%20Elmendorf-Richardson-Alaska-AIB%20NARRATIVE%20REPORT.pdf?ver=2018-11-15-200849-187 Edited July 28, 2019 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Holbeach Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Here's the rest of that thread, when it was reported as being fixed. (5 years later and it hasn't been fixed). https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=134205 .. Edited July 28, 2019 by Holbeach ASUS 2600K 3.8. P8Z68-V. ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080Ti, RAM 16gb Corsair. M2 NVME 2gb. 2 SSD. 3 HDD. 1 kW ps. X-52. Saitek pedals. ..
mvsgas Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Not related but funny XlaJJXkS3uo B-1B forget to lower landing gear http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html Same thing on a C-17 http://www.iasa-intl.com/folders/belfast/C17gearupBagram.htm Edited July 28, 2019 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Holbeach Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 No, its not quite the same any more. Gears go up, plane down, but when trying to extract them (down), they do not go (or just until they touch the ground), but you surely not able to drive, not take off. Yes, you can still do the same as in those videos (in game). No, you can't raise the gear with full load on the legs in real life, whilst in operational condition. .. ASUS 2600K 3.8. P8Z68-V. ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080Ti, RAM 16gb Corsair. M2 NVME 2gb. 2 SSD. 3 HDD. 1 kW ps. X-52. Saitek pedals. ..
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