JF17 borked online

[Lymark]

Still broken

RWR

RWR gives betty warnings like tracking, and missile.

No visual indications of tracking/locking by hostiles

Missiles do show up in the MAWS in the rear quarter

 

+1

 

My friends and I have been getting very inconsistent results in PVP(GS server) with the DTC trick.

 

In one flight, the RWR could have totally bugged for me but not my friends, then the next spawn, it'd work for me but not for them. Then, there's also a VERY high tendency for it to not work for us at all. Not to mention that, I rarely receive [14] nails nor warnings from the phoenix. So now, whenever I find a target on my radar and it's not painting me, I'd just assume it's a F14.

 

Also, the old bug where my radar locked target wouldn't show on the HSD sees to have resurfaced now(Picture attached). It was just a one time thing tho.

[Harlikwin]

So minor RWR update from last night.

Cleared out the FXo/metashaders (not sure if would have anything to do with it but why not)

 

Went on the just dogfight server (airstart), and immediately got nails from a mig29, and then SA-15s that they have setup.

 

So, its either a cold-start issue, or a server issue.

 

I'll do a bit more checking later today.

[DarkStar79]

Same here. I sometimes get the HSD RWR warning and the voice. And sometimes only the voice. I think atleast.

 

Also the AIM-120 doesnt get you any warning at all when it have been shooted from TWS. you dont know when the missile have looked on you..

[ShadowFrost]

Can also confirm, not getting any RWR indications on HSD from player aircraft. Ground units are popping up still. But, I do get audible notifications for tracking/missile. Not sure on HUD as I cannot remember.

[Harlikwin]

I've now gotten locked/tracked by air targets (dogfight server for sure so air start), but now also on bluflag with an F15. But not F18's. So lord knows what it is, its very inconsistent to be sure and those are the "best" bugs.

 

(after repair/reinstall etc).

[GIGA_HORSE]

I can't figure out the HSD, RWR, I would get an audible "tracking" warning without visual representation on HSD, so I have no idea where it is coming from.

[Lymark]

That inconsistent sounds about right to me.

 

I could be seeing [14]/[15]/[18] the 1st flight, then no [14] the 2nd. Then nothing at all the 3th.

[Jester2138]

Getting absolutely no RWR visual indication of enemy radars, lock, or audible tones at all in Growling Sidewinder. I am doing the DTC trick suggested in the change log. I have completely reinstalled the module.

 

This is pretty frustrating as the plane was more usable before the "fix" and I was having lots of fun on GS...

[Oceandar]

That inconsistent sounds about right to me.

 

I could be seeing [14]/[15]/[18] the 1st flight, then no [14] the 2nd. Then nothing at all the 3th.

Yup, confirmed. It worked like only brief of time once airborne then after that it was all quiet.

[Harlikwin]

Whats the DTC trick?

[Oceandar]

Whats the DTC trick?

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4143811

[Harlikwin]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4143811

 

Hows that work with autostart. Do i redo the dtc after autostart?

[izzyssm]

I don't know how far we are in this discussion but I am also seeing this issue happen. One difference for me is that it also happens when not on multiplayer.

[Oceandar]

Hows that work with autostart. Do i redo the dtc after autostart?

I'm not sure because I don't do autostart but you can try, after all set, remove dtc and ask ground crew to update the dtc then load it up again

[CHRISXTR3M3]

Soooo...

 

Online, blueflag Persian gulf. Issues witnessed/reported by many people.

 

RWR not working online.... Generally speaking...

 

Betty does call tracking and missile. MAWS shows at least some missiles in rear aspect. (personal exp)

 

No Nails from any target, "tracking" doesn't show any targets but betty reports tracking... (personal exp)

 

Rumor: Possibly the RWR is showing targets that spawn AFTER the JF17 spawns (so new enemy players, but never SAMS)

 

Moreover IFF doesn't seem to working. Lots of buddy kills. (personal exp)

Data link is sort-of working, it does show friendly's but other friendly's showing as unk/hostile (f16 that I buddy killed for example) Definitely showed "yellow" (personal exp)

 

SRS not working for the JF-17 (not sure that's Deka's problem).

 

As mentioned, WPT, PP, RP not working online (personal xp)

 

Countermeasures didn't deploy (personal xp)

 

Hotfix plz.

 

sorry no trackfile. It would be too huge to upload anyway.

 

 

 

 

So, here's how I got my stuff to work....and i had all the issues you listed. I uninstalled the JF-17 Module. Ran DCS Clean-up tool. Ran DCS Repair Tool. Reinstalled JF-17 Module. And rebound all my hotas keybindings from scratch.

 

 

Problems solved

[Harlikwin]

So, here's how I got my stuff to work....and i had all the issues you listed. I uninstalled the JF-17 Module. Ran DCS Clean-up tool. Ran DCS Repair Tool. Reinstalled JF-17 Module. And rebound all my hotas keybindings from scratch.

 

 

Problems solved

 

The secod hotfix sorted most of it aside from the rwr which is inconsistent.

 

Im on steam so the repair procedure is different but i did do a repair and module reinstall. But rwr is still not working right more often than not from cold start. Though once in a while it does work right.

[coolneko]

Everything but the rwr seems fine for me.

 

I'll join a server and the rwr will work for 10-15 minutes and then I get no returns afterwards.

[Oceandar]

So, here's how I got my stuff to work....and i had all the issues you listed. I uninstalled the JF-17 Module. Ran DCS Clean-up tool. Ran DCS Repair Tool. Reinstalled JF-17 Module. And rebound all my hotas keybindings from scratch.

 

 

Problems solved

I did reinstall but the problem persist. RWR only showed nails for few minutes then gone. DL never work in MP since released.

Just in case you're talking about SP, we are talking about MP here because SP is fine.

[Terrorban]

does the broken RWR affect LD-10s performance?

[Harlikwin]

No LD10's work fine been using them "blind" online alot.

 

 

Just checked offline airstart against SA-8. RWR picked up SA8 tracking, Locking, Firing no problem. LD10 killed SA8 no problem. So for me offline airstart is fine.

[Harlikwin]

I did reinstall but the problem persist. RWR only showed nails for few minutes then gone. DL never work in MP since released.

Just in case you're talking about SP, we are talking about MP here because SP is fine.

 

DL kinda works online depending on the server. On Blueflag it works fighter to fighter just fine.

[Oceandar]

DL kinda works online depending on the server. On Blueflag it works fighter to fighter just fine.

Fighter to fighter yes but not from AWACS. Kinda half work I would say

[foxwxl]

DataLink is still WIP and might be taken care of after the RWR issue is solved.

Edited December 24, 2019 by foxwxl

[FoxTrotAlpha691]

So what has everyone's experience been with the JF-17 in MP the last few days? It seems as if the aircraft's performance has been downgraded, can anyone else confirm a similar experience? For example, degraded turn rate and or weapon performance.

[Oceandar]

DataLink is still WIP and might be taken care of after the RWR issue is solved.

 

I just realized you're one of dev. Thank you for the responds and good luck

 

 

So what has everyone's experience been with the JF-17 in MP the last few days? It seems as if the aircraft's performance has been downgraded, can anyone else confirm a similar experience? For example, degraded turn rate and or weapon performance.

 

Despite the RWR and DL issue it has been great. I love how the way it flies. I cant tell if I saw any downgrade performance. But I must say based on just a "feeling" I guess Deka has little bit reduced the range of SD-10. Its still dangerous missile with quite high PK but still manageable to beat it ( I did dodge it several time in MP).