eatthis Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 how do i actually use the iff in the back office? hook them on the tid, then press the iff button? or do i hold it for a set amount of time? or do i hold it indeffinately until i get the symbology change? 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricaltill Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 The target only changes on the DDD. A sort of "=" appears in the centre of the DDD if the target is IFFing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatthis Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 The target only changes on the DDD. A sort of "=" appears in the centre of the DDD if the target is IFFing. How des it change from unknown to hostile or friendly on the tid? 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiceman Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 You change it... hook the target and choose friend, hostile, etc on the CAP in the TGT DATA category. Former USN Avionics Tech VF-41 86-90, 93-95 VF-101 90-93 Heatblur Tomcat SME I9-9900K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3200 | Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe | RTX 2070 Super | TM Throttle | VPC Warbird Base TM F-18 Stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatthis Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 You change it... hook the target and choose friend, hostile, etc on the CAP in the TGT DATA category. Manually? So how do i identify it as friend or foe? 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCatGoad Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On the DDD, lock the target then hold the interrogate button. It will then show as friend or foe on the DDD. Using the information you have gathered here you can then manually change the target type on the TID. Remember everything on the TID is a combination on what you have and data link. Data link being the bottom half, top half being your radar. This means you could have something in the datalink system bottom half enemy that you have identified and tag as a friend top half. Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricaltill Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 How des it change from unknown to hostile or friendly on the tid?It doesn't automatically. If you want that you have to mark it using the CAP after you see the results of the IFF interrogation on the DDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaogen Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 This is the fun part. As others have said, the TID target identification is completely up to the RIO. You can mark a friendly as enemy and the A/C will gladly accept your input, and of course send a missile their way accordingly, when asked to do so. Mostly because the IFF can tell you a bogey is friendly. It cannot tell you it is a bandit. You, the RIO, are making an assumption. Datalink through AWACS, can be very useful in these situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatthis Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 so i have to get an stt lock to get an iff response? 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonerCat Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 IFF returns are categorized in 2 ways. "=" - Friendly "-" Hostile or unknown There are a number of ways to IFF. -1st one, is general IFF. Just press the IFF pushbutton to the right of the DDD (one of the 3 buttons in a row above radar modes), and hold it. The DDD will display every radar contact as their IFF return. -2nd one is hooked contact IFF. Hook up a contact (must be a radar return, not DL) on the TID with your HCU, and hold the IFF button. The return will be centered on your DDD. It's difficult to see hostile returns sometimes, as they get partially obscured by the cross in the center of the DDD. -3rd one is STT IFF. Much like with the hooked IFF, but you'll be locking STT instead of hooking with the HCU. Once you've got an STT lock, press and hold the IFF pushbutton. The return will be centered on the DDD, like with the hooking method TID target designation is entirely up to the RIO, and is independent from the IFF system. In the TGT DATA section on your CAP input drum, pushbuttons 6, 7 and 8 control designate friendly, unknown and hostile respectively. Just hook up a target with your HCU, and designate as desired with the CAP pushbuttons. Hope this helps Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatthis Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 IFF returns are categorized in 2 ways. "=" - Friendly "-" Hostile or unknown There are a number of ways to IFF. -1st one, is general IFF. Just press the IFF pushbutton to the right of the DDD (one of the 3 buttons in a row above radar modes), and hold it. The DDD will display every radar contact as their IFF return. -2nd one is hooked contact IFF. Hook up a contact (must be a radar return, not DL) on the TID with your HCU, and hold the IFF button. The return will be centered on your DDD. It's difficult to see hostile returns sometimes, as they get partially obscured by the cross in the center of the DDD. -3rd one is STT IFF. Much like with the hooked IFF, but you'll be locking STT instead of hooking with the HCU. Once you've got an STT lock, press and hold the IFF pushbutton. The return will be centered on the DDD, like with the hooking method TID target designation is entirely up to the RIO, and is independent from the IFF system. In the TGT DATA section on your CAP input drum, pushbuttons 6, 7 and 8 control designate friendly, unknown and hostile respectively. Just hook up a target with your HCU, and designate as desired with the CAP pushbuttons. Hope this helps very helpful thanks, dont know what/where the cap drum is though :megalol: is it the scratchpad i use for ins input at startup? 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonerCat Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) It's on your left hand side, and it's aft of the panel you use to type in coords This image from the manual shows the CAP drum and input panel. Turn the knob (7) to the TGT DATA position, and buttons 6, 7 and 8 (right side center) will control the top half of the HAFU on the TID Edited January 30, 2020 by BonerCat Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) left hand side Edited January 29, 2020 by punk Punk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatthis Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 It's on your right hand side, and it's aft of the panel you use to type in coords This image from the manual shows the CAP drum and input panel. Turn the knob (7) to the TGT DATA position, and buttons 6, 7 and 8 (right side center) will control the top half of the HAFU on the TID left side but again thanks for the idiot guide, il get practising this:pilotfly: 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunSlingerAUS Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 IFF returns are categorized in 2 ways. "=" - Friendly "-" Hostile or unknown There are a number of ways to IFF. -1st one, is general IFF. Just press the IFF pushbutton to the right of the DDD (one of the 3 buttons in a row above radar modes), and hold it. The DDD will display every radar contact as their IFF return. -2nd one is hooked contact IFF. Hook up a contact (must be a radar return, not DL) on the TID with your HCU, and hold the IFF button. The return will be centered on your DDD. It's difficult to see hostile returns sometimes, as they get partially obscured by the cross in the center of the DDD. -3rd one is STT IFF. Much like with the hooked IFF, but you'll be locking STT instead of hooking with the HCU. Once you've got an STT lock, press and hold the IFF pushbutton. The return will be centered on the DDD, like with the hooking method TID target designation is entirely up to the RIO, and is independent from the IFF system. In the TGT DATA section on your CAP input drum, pushbuttons 6, 7 and 8 control designate friendly, unknown and hostile respectively. Just hook up a target with your HCU, and designate as desired with the CAP pushbuttons. Hope this helps Amazing post, thank you! Intel 11900K/NVIDIA RTX 3090/32GB DDR4 3666/Z590 Asus Maximus motherboard/2TB Samsung EVO Pro/55" LG C9 120Hz @ 4K/Windows 10/Jotunheim Schiit external headphone amp/Virpil HOTAS + MFG Crosswind pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonerCat Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Yeah, you guys are right. It is on the left. My brain did a stiupid and confused them Again Thanks for the correction Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 very helpful thanks, dont know what/where the cap drum is though :megalol: is it the scratchpad i use for ins input at startup? You should really take a look at the official manual. It's all explained in there: http://www.heatblur.se/F-14Manual/cockpit.html#computer-address-panel Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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