Buran-Pilot Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hi I was wondering if there are any definite plans how DCS will be shipped. Will it be a Flaming Cliffs style DVD Box only with the CD/DVD and a PDF manual - for a cheap price. Or a nowadays fogotten form with printed manual - for a highter price. I mean there is the trend to sell even highly complex Simulations without any manual (MS-FSX, Silent Hunter 4, Falcon 4.0 AF or Lockon itself). But i'm not sure why there is this development - okay, the costs for a big manual are quite high, but is it a solution to push it over to the customer who has to print the crap out of his printer/wallet? Somewhere i read that a big manual scares off the casual videogame buyer - okay, could be - but now the casual gamer buys the sim and puts in on ebay afterwards because he has absolutely no chance to get into the sim due to the lack of a manual. So noone realy wins - the sim developers loose reputation and sell numbers because they produce sims with bad tutorials and no manuals (best example: silent hunter 4 - where there wasn't even a PDF manual - the forum community had to write their own!) So hopefully there will be atleast a seperate manual to order at the release date of black shark. (somewhat like the flaming cliffs manual - though which was only available some time after release) regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 There is definitely a PDF manual. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild.Bill.Kelso Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Buran, I agree with you. Many of use wish they would included a good manual on so many of these games. Just like the good old days of Falcon 3.0 and 4.0. But that is not just sims, it's with most games nowadays. But I doubt it will happen with the game. Maybe somebody will put together a separate manual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avimimus Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 The problem is, unlike games, sims really benefit from good manuals. See the FC manual: http://www.lockon.co.uk My guess is that this will be the most likely situation (two separate orders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild.Bill.Kelso Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I totally agree! If any 'game' needs a good manual, it is a simulation. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roge Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Would love a great detailed manual to delve into, happily pay for seperate. Makes the thing come to life in your head so youre ready to try out ideas in the sim. :book: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTiger Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I could say "here we go again", but instead I want to request this as many times as I can. PRINTED MANUAL AS AN OPTION, PLEASE. :book: :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DancinBear Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I totally agree! If any 'game' needs a good manual, it is a simulation. :thumbup: LMAO... thats Wild Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild.Bill.Kelso Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hey DancinBear, How did you get a Reputation of 2 with only 1 post? Somebody must have really liked that post. Guess I'll add to it too.... WTH.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britgliderpilot Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I'm not aware of any plans for publishing yet . . . but I wouldn't be too worried. ED are now self-publishing, which means they have a little bit more freedom. And they've previously produced the ring-bound Flaming Cliffs manual for order from their website. If it's in ED's best interests to offer a printed manual as an option (which it most certainly is with a sim of this complexity), and it's within their capability . . . well, it seems like a no-brainer. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep asking for it, though. Sure the testers can provide some supporting arguments to ED on behalf of the community, too :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostie Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Id like the Britannica of Ka-50, a wall map, start up manual, how to kill tanks vid, stats cards, some glossy posters plus a free pen and key ring. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTiger Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Id like the Britannica of Ka-50, a wall map, start up manual, how to kill tanks vid, stats cards, some glossy posters plus a free pen and key ring. Don't forget a limited edition Franklin Mint pewter Ka-50 figurine. Gotta have the pewter figurine, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran-Pilot Posted December 7, 2007 Author Share Posted December 7, 2007 @Frost1e: was that an ironic comment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Nope. I think he's serious about that :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
192nd_Erdem Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Hey DancinBear, How did you get a Reputation of 2 with only 1 post? Somebody must have really liked that post. Guess I'll add to it too.... WTH.. I think the reps are imported back from the LO forums, that's why. Not that I care about this little e-penor thingie though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostie Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 @Frost1e: was that an ironic comment ? No irony here (just insert smilies), except your defensive stance:D:D:D:D "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I still have my Lock-On enhanced manual: copy 1924. Do one for Black Shark and I'll buy it guys. :thumbup: Read to bother hands their on time much too with people only that bit little the. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA-Blaze Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Well anyway at least we know that the training files will have voice overs....:smilewink: Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_Mark Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I used to enjoy going to bed with a cuppa and my sizable F4 manuals lol, untill the wife looks across at me like im some kind of sad bast*** of course :music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I've got another idea! What about a black wunderbaum with fuel & metal smell? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusch Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 LOL :D Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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