[REPORTED]2.5.6 Infantry Ignoring each other and not shooting.

[robgraham]

I've done a video for this, but Infantry are bugged.. again, not shooting at each other even when ROE set to Free, their standing next to each other etc. Steps to reproduce etc etc etc in the video.

 

track and mission attached.

 

ORyFIiQn3P4

 

edit: Oh should note happens on Dedicated server, Single player etc etc.

not_shotting_test.miz

bustedinfantryroe-free.trk

Edited March 13, 2020 by robgraham

[robgraham]

Seems to be limited to Infantry as an addition, tanks etc will attack each other fine, Infantry won't.

[BIGNEWY]

Reported, thanks

[PravusJSB]

I've done A LOT of testing on this, and it's related to a bug reported in June 2019, and possibly ties in as far back as a bug from 2016. It is not related just to Inf however, seems to be at least also affecting unarmed and any unit at all that uses 'visual' detection, which I see in the files is not even a thing. Visual just means it has no sensors at all. I've been working hard on tracing the issue and I've made a workaround (for Dedi server):

 

Interestingly the behaviour and the required fix is different on MP mission hosted from normal client, and also ME test env.

 

Happy to share my findings @BIGNEWEY, it may be useful to see the code I'm using to spawn a group and fix it.

[Miles Vorkosigan]

It is not just infantry. We have been testing on three different dedicated servers and several different missions, all are the same. It is like the AI sees different enemy from what is there. Mig 15s chase around the sky like they are dog-fighting but the Sabres just fly on by without a care. I have seen Mig 15 formations and Sabre formation happen to fly the same route and it looks like they are flying in formation. Oblivious to one another.

 

This has been happening with any mission that I and another mission maker, have made since the 2.5.6 patch.

 

Dedicated Server PCs:

 

i5 4690K, 16gb, SSD (OS and DCS) no dedicated GPU

 

i5 6600K, 16gb, SSD (OS and DCS) no dedicated GPU

 

My connection to the server PCs are in house so the ping is 1ms

 

We also tried with a dedicated hosted server but I do not have the specs of that machine, etc. My ping was 55ms.

log and track file.zip

[PravusJSB]

Yes Propnut it affects ALL units with visual sensors (which actually don't exist it seems) which has a huge knock on effect to everything else because the bug causes them to be invisible to all other AI, I've actually identified the cause in the server side code, and I've amended the AI behaviour myself. My mission has come alive, this issue has been in for a LONG time. I've never seen so much action, this fix not only allowed the unit to operate normally, but everything else in the env to change their behaviour akin to what you would expect. Fast, realistic spotting and engagement, I'd balanced my mission not realising it was borked and now theres 5 of us in here getting our arses handed to us.

 

Interestingly I PM'd BN and offered him the info but he said ED team were dealing and they were fine.