Are Hammerheads supposed to be wide?

[Nealius]

I've been playing around with aerobatics according to the manual, but if I do a Hammerhead exactly as prescribed by the manual with full left rudder, I always get wing stalls. Always.

 

The only way to prevent a wing stall is for me to start with full left rudder, then after about 45 degrees of yaw or so I ease way off the rudder/right stick, and apply/release left rudder/right stick as needed to keep the yaw going without having a wing stall.

 

The problem is I always come back down from the Hammerhead about 100-200ft abeam of where I went vertical. I thought you were supposed to come down literally alongside the same path you went up?

[Tom Kazansky]

I've been playing around with aerobatics according to the manual, but if I do a Hammerhead exactly as prescribed by the manual with full left rudder, I always get wing stalls. Always.

 

The only way to prevent a wing stall is for me to start with full left rudder, then after about 45 degrees of yaw or so I ease way off the rudder/right stick, and apply/release left rudder/right stick as needed to keep the yaw going without having a wing stall.

 

The problem is I always come back down from the Hammerhead about 100-200ft abeam of where I went vertical. I thought you were supposed to come down literally alongside the same path you went up?

 

 

so the DCS:CEII's hammehead does not look like:

 

Christen Eagle Aerobatics - Paul Dougherty - Culpeper Va. 2018

 

 

@3:53

 

 

?

[Nealius]

Not even close. If I try to do it that tight I get a wing stall. Every. Single. Time.

 

According to the manual I should:

 

1. Push left rudder at 40-50mph

2. After 90 degrees of yaw counter excess left yaw by adding right rudder until in vertical dive with controls moving back to neutral.

 

But when I try it in DCS, I have to ease off left rudder after 45 degrees of yaw or I wing stall. This makes the "turn" too wide. Then I am unable to move the controls back to neutral, requiring quite a bit of right rudder through the dive until I regain speed.

 

I'll grab some video.

[pierrewind]

To me there are some significant low speed controlability issues. It makes some of the maneuvers not work as it should. Hamerhead is part of it, but a basic imelman could be a problem.

 

I wished some of these issues where looked into but no com from magnitude...

 

The christen eagle is a great little monster. But to me the FM in DCS is very much sub par. (impossible to fly actual advanced sequences properly... weird behavior when pushed, or during rolls) If you want to go proper hardcore aerobatic, I would suggest Aerofly FS2.