FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Due to a recent flood of my basement caused by 1 metre of melting snow, 3 days of 10c temp, and 3 days of rain. The good news is my insurance will cover replacment of my game machine. So my question is what do the experts think I should invest in? Video Card? Motherboard? Ram and # of gigs? CPU? Soundcard? Hard Drive? DVD R/W? Thanks for the input. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesco Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 + CPU: Core 2 Duo with 4MB of L2 cache (if possible you can overclock) + RAM: do not know brands in Canada but you should have at least 2GB (im running 2GB in dual channel mode) + Motherboard: Gigabyte or Asus with all solid capacitors, chipset P35 or X38 for better overclocking (im running P35 mainboard and OC my E2160 from 1.8Ghz to 3.2Ghz with stock fan) + Video card: ATI Radeon HD 2900XT/ HD 3870 or 8800 series... (ATI X1650XT is good, very cheap, good image quality with Avivo technology and high fps) + Hard drive: 250-320GB Seagate SATA2 + Soundcard and CDRW: i dont know bands in Canada :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Thanks Majesco, whatever brands are available in the US are available here. I had 4 gig of Buffalo ram but I will now check out corsair etc. I have been looking at the new AMD Phenom CPU and the 3000 series ATI Video Card, (Brother in Law is an engineer for AMD/ATI so I feel family loyalty may be neccessary :smilewink:). However it appears Lock On and IL2, (the games I play most) use open gl and they tend to play better on Invidia video cards. The search continues! If anyone has any other suggestions it would be much appreciated. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesco Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Acedy, your A-Data RAMs look like this ? i'm now running 2 x1GB of this brand, looks like below picture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesco Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 wow, the EE is the Vitesta Extreme Edition - the brand of Adata for pro-overclockers, much better than mine (Expert Memory) Now they've released Adata Vitesta Extreme Edition 1200Mhz+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Thanks gents for the input. I just looked up the A-Data Ram. I can get 4GB for $84.99 US. I will post the equipment I am considering. See link. Is this the Ram you are suggesting? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=a-data+ddr2+800&x=11&y=35 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Fudd Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Oooooo Canuck Canuck Canuck..... You must see me on Ventrilo, at once.... :D Lets start here.... Fill in what you already have on hand (if the water didn't kill everything) Computer Build CPU - Ram – Graphics card – 3870 (sure you couldn't just paint an 8800gt Red?) lol Operating System - Sound Card – CPU Heatsink and Fan - Monitor - Motherboard - Psu - Case - Hard Drive - Optical Drive - Keyboard - Mouse - Shipping - 30$ Are you buying right away? Whats your comfort budget? This place look good to you? They've been around forever, I hear them constantly quoted by Canadians http://www.ncix.com/index.php Lists! its all about lists!!! http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=3424123&postcount=1 http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Thanks Fudd, I will join you on Vent via me weak knee laptop! Can you send me a PM with the ip for 3sqd Vent. I would appreciate speaking with you about this. Have Key Board, Mouse. Don't have any fun stuff yet. Taking my time and enjoying the moment! Budget should fall around $2K CDN. Waiting for go ahead from insurance. So Fudd, fill out your suggested "open to buy". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Fudd Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Thanks Fudd, I will join you on Vent via me weak knee laptop! Can you send me a PM with the ip for 3sqd Vent. I would appreciate speaking with you about this. Have Key Board, Mouse. Don't have any fun stuff yet. Taking my time and enjoying the moment! Budget should fall around $2K CDN. Waiting for go ahead from insurance. So Fudd, fill out your suggested "open to buy". Grab 3.0 Client here. IP: 66.228.121.146 Port: 9513 Join Password: barbie Feel free to hop on comms w/us. Are you buying right away? And will you be overclocking? http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Fudd Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Computer Build ... No Vista, Wants to buy from PCVOnline http://www.pcvonline.com CPU – If you can, Wait for an dual core E8400 (The Penryn quad cores are delayed) I THINK it will debut at 250$-300$... If not then it's a toss up between Quad Core Q6600 (2.4Ghz) at 289$ or something like an E6750 (2.66Ghz) at 200$. Hell, even a E4500 at 140$ will do really well. This one is really up to you (how long will you wait for Penryn's.) All being said, I would put the money towards a 24inch monitor. You'll see how it plays out below. Ram – 2 x 1 GB Corsair 4-4-4-12 http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5711 100$ Acedy's comment does stand though, I just don't know how 4 gigs reacts in XP during overclocking Graphics card – Asus 8800gt 512mb http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=6490 260$ ATI 3870 PVCOnline doesnt have a 3870... may be OOS Sound Card – Creative SB X-FI Extreme... bleh, I hate looking for Sound cards lol http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5447 72$ CPU Heatsink and Fan - You said about overclocking ... “If there's a an opportunity I'll do it” http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=2657 Just used this in my brother build and it keeps his well cool, especially with the new Intel 45nm chips coming out. Might be a problem if you go quad core and get into Ocing, no worries, just get a newer heatsink 35$ Motherboard - For non-SLI GigaByte GA-P35-DS3R http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5801 Proven performer and is compatible with 45nm Penryn 145$ For SLI Asus P5N-E SLI (650 SLI) http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=4740 Compatible with 45nm Penryn and a solid board. Tough to know how either of these boards will do overclocking Penryns. Better results probably with the GA-P35, thats just a guess though. 137$ Psu - Its so import to have a good one, I do not care if you're overclocking or not http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5718 99$ Case - Thermaltake Armor... Sweet choice dude http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5143 200$ Hard Drive - Seagate Perpendicular http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=2939 120$ Optical Drive - http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5494 Does what ya need outside of HD Dvd, only Blu-ray and HdDvd do that. It's sata, no need for big Ide cables anymore 35$ 125$ for PCV-Online building 1375$ (e6750, 8800gt, Gigabyte Motherboard) + 179 for Tax = 1659$ Leaving 446$ for a Monitor.....puts you in range for a 24in Monitor with a TN type panel screen. http://www.pcvonline.com/products.aspx?cat=Monitors&sub=LCD%20Monitors%2024%22&sub2= http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?minorcatid=1003&subminorcatid=220 So thats version 1.... Everyone chime in http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 Wow thanks Fudd! I think Rugg was right about you, I can almost hear the growns of ecstasy!!!:doh: Anyone have any thougts on the subject! Keep in mind I am preparing for Balck Shark and Olegs BOB (Battle of Britain). Great stuff Fudd. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereminqblank Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Just to add about the E8400. There is a thread going on about it over at the anandtech.com forums about places in the US that are taking pre-orders. That might give you some ideas on where you can obtain it and for how much. They are saying the chip will be released on the 21st, which is less than a week away. "Unholy Roller" [sIGPIC]http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/images/userbars/A-10C_UserBar_01.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Fudd Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yeh looks like you should go with a E8400.... for 200$ US... Sweeeeet http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 Wow, that should work out to oh, uh, uhm, about $100 bucks Canadian!:music_whistling: One wonders why so low for a new product? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Fudd Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Pull the trigger yet? Call PCV and see when their E8400's are in.... mines on the way http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I'll chip in... Yes do get Intel's E8400 (o/c very nicely even on air) and you could pair it with DDR2 RAM PC8500 1066MHz (it'll enable you to o/c quite nicely) but even PC6400 800MHz will do for say 3.6GHz overclock. If you want anything higher and you'd need PC8000/8500 RAM. I'd personally go for motheboard with X35 or X38 chipset (X38 chipset gets quite hot but it's best chipset around, some botherboard even have built in water cooling block for NB/SB/Mosfet) because I think Intel botherboard chipset is the best (best compatibility with other hardware and drivers for most part). Sound card, yes get X-Fi Gamer... it's about the best S/C for gaming and not to expensive. Like Fudd said, do get really good quality PSU, as it is very important part of PC (if not most important) when it comes to components quality as everything in your systems runs off it. Any instability and it'll muck up your hardware. case and all other pieces like mouse, drives etc it's up to you and it's not THAT important as they don't stress anything in your system :) I have also found water cooling to do wonders.. it's quiet and enables very nice overclocking. Since 45nm run on average 10°C cooler compared to their 65nm counterparts, I think getting E8400 on water cooling to 4GHz piece of cake. The only factor to how much you could overclock this CPU would be the motherboard (depending how high it can push the FSB and this is where good motherboard chipset comes in place.) But if yu don't want to overclock too much getting E8400 from default 3.0Ghz to 3.6GHz should be very easy even on air as the CPU runs very cool. PC6400 RAM would handle it also as it would match CPU at this frequency, and motherboard would need to run 400 FSB (which is no problem either). No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 Thanks guys for the input. I am waiting for the guys who will be performing the restorations in the basement to provide their quote to the insurance company. My wife seems to think this is more important than my new pc......hard to believe huh!:joystick: Fudd I checked out the video card, I know its good but why not the ASUS EXTREME N8800GTS HTPD/512MB/PCI-E VIDEO CARD for $350. Is it a case of bang for the buck? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Fudd Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Here a little insight into how the gigabyte board overclocks the E8400... He's a newbie at overclocking too.... 3.8Ghz http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1265295 Once he gets over the fear he'll be at 4Ghz+ easily http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Hey Fudd check out early bench marks of the ATI HD3870. When you have a chance walk me through it. Thanks http://en.expreview.com/?p=219#more-219 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Fudd Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 ok so this is the HD3870X2... 2 GPU's on one card Its pretty compelling... To get the most out of it you should really get a X38 or x48 (with DDR2 Ram) (Both kind pricey) Chipset because it has PCIe 2.0 express. ATI will have better drivers for this card as well. Performance should really go up as drivers come out. May have troubles with Dual monitors but even if, it won't affect you. I really like this card, it'll be loud and hot (probably won't OC well) but it will do very well. It will fit in your case I would (just for leeway) up the PSU up a bit to the Corsair HX620 or the like. If you are going to go this way, but it quick, before the price gouging starts Here's a thread.... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174212 http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 hm... AUD$319 for Saphire X3870 512MB... call that CHEAP! http://www.auspcmarket.com.au No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Crazy-Canuck Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Check out this review on the Radeon 3870 x2. It appears to be an even handed report. http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 ah, now I see why that X3870 is so cheap... it's got 1 GPU No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesco Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Here's the new CPUs: Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 Wolfdale benchmark (overclocked), very powerful Mobo: Gigabyte P35-S3L E8200 2.66Ghz/ FSB 1333 @ 4.3Ghz/ FSB 2152Mhz Water cooling system (very cheap) RAM: Crucial Ballistic Tracer 667 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Fudd Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Yeh thats a nice 10 second SuperPi run, I wonder if he could play LockOn for 4 hours on that? http://3sqn.com/forum/ Here's to 1.13 -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0488djMDBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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