=TuAF= Server Rules and Stats Scoring System

[Mustang]

Hey, is that you "Rustam"? leave FLANKERATOR alone, he's doing nothing wrong.

[Рустам]

Hey, is that you "Rustam"? leave FLANKERATOR alone, he's doing nothing wrong.

 

Yes, that's me :) And write clearer please, I do not understand what you say in the second part of the message :noexpression:

[sana..kan]

http://85.97.129.4/server1/pilot.php?pilot==AH=FLANKERATOR

 

Look at the statistics of this player, he plays unfair! He comes when nobody on the server, kills AWAKS and earning points! That the Administration should take, for example, does not charge points for the murder AWAKS.... Or ban =AH=FLANKERATOR.

 

There is nobody when he came fly

not his fault

there is no rule who forbidden that

there is no rule who forbidden idiots too

too bad :smilewink:

[Рустам]

There is nobody when he came fly

not his fault

there is no rule who forbidden that

there is no rule who forbidden idiots too

too bad :smilewink:

 

И ты здесь.. Если бы ты еще по-русски смог писать было бы вооще шоколадно, а так я ничего не понял из того что ты написал...

[Mustang]

И ты здесь.. Если бы ты еще по-русски смог писать было бы вооще шоколадно, а так я ничего не понял из того что ты написал...

 

Rustam, this is the *ENGLISH* forums, if you cannot deal with english don't bother posting here ok?

[GGTharos]

Or just remove AWACS and forbid vulching. That would solve a lot of problems.

[Boberro]

I don't see any wrong thing which he made IMO, so what's problem?

[TorwaK]

Ok people, we found another solution. From now on if you kill more than 5 AI planes in a month, those kills will not count as score point.

 

PS. Stats system is updated so some of people scores are decreased.

[Peyoteros]

If (friendly) AWACS escort shoots you down it's not recorded as you were team killed... Ban Mig31 pilot-1 and all F14 pilots! :D Having a brake...

:pilotfly:

[FLANKERATOR]

i cant beleive the new system scoring update torwak!!!

im a member of the Air Hawks and our top gun trophy is held on your server and everybody is trying his best to win that trophy every month. if i am shooting down AI aircrfats its because when i get back home i find always server empty. its not my fault i prefer human opponents.at least human player wont force you to fly each time 15mn 300km for 2 or 3 kills. and AIM54C and R33 are everything except peice of cake!!!

untill now everybody had the right to shoot down hostile aircrafts including IA except FLANKERATOR!!!!! and modestly i am able to earn points faster by far if i was able to play when server is full of human pilots. but i have no choice i get home late not my fault!!

this rules update is heavily unfair

[FLANKERATOR]

if u maintain this update im afraid i will leave TuAF server...

 

Ps: Rustam if you want to be a top of the ranking u have to do it by skills not by crying!!

[Peyoteros]

I can't believe it, took couple of days of and everyone starts to go mad... I don't think that any changes are needed, neither I think Flankerator is doing something wrong. If he likes the server and chooses to pop in and wait until server will get populated so he have some human opponents, well everyone does that. Shooting AWACS is not an easy task takes a lot of time in flying and else... Because of LOMAC bug (AWACS escort shooting friendly planes), You (TorwaK) do not remove them, so removing points for shooting planes is not fare... It's impossible to suit everyones taste in missions so I say take it easy and leave everything as it is.

 

:pilotfly:

[TorwaK]

Guys scoring system is not a big deal. We created it just to see people's flight performance.

[FLANKERATOR]

ok torwak so why you remove half of my points??? it is not a performance to fight against AI aircrafts ? if not then TuAF II server should not exist since it is based 100% vs AI targets...moreover A2A public server should have more AI aircrfats than simply awacs and their escort to let pilots of all timezones to play in your server and have fun...that will simply increase the popularity of your server. you could set all AI pilots to excellent but why simply cancelling points when fighting them. when im playing at empty server i want to have some human opponents but no one comes its not my fault.

u decide but i strongly think that this update is not fair at all and i thank peyoteros and Mustang for their support and specially their great fair play.

let me know clearly your final decision please Torwak.

TY.

[Рустам]

FLANKERATOR, I do not want to be the first, i just say my opinion, two of us crying only you because of the your lost points.

[FLANKERATOR]

hey Rustam try to go versus the awacs escorts and tell me back how much crashes have you taken and how much time did you spent doing this?

you can also show up in TuAF when im online and stop me i sware i wont cry for this ;)

 

now i need Torwak final decision

S! gents

[Рустам]

hey Rustam try to go versus the awacs escorts and tell me back how much crashes have you taken and how much time did you spent doing this?

you can also show up in TuAF when im online and stop me i sware i wont cry for this ;)

 

now i need Torwak final decision

S! gents

 

I am not saying that this is easy. But no secret that after some time in mission F-14 land to the airfield and awaks continues to fly without escort protection and at this time it is very easy to kill them (and earn a lot of points)

[TorwaK]

ok torwak so why you remove half of my points??? it is not a performance to fight against AI aircrafts ? if not then TuAF II server should not exist since it is based 100% vs AI targets...moreover A2A public server should have more AI aircrfats than simply awacs and their escort to let pilots of all timezones to play in your server and have fun...that will simply increase the popularity of your server. you could set all AI pilots to excellent but why simply cancelling points when fighting them. when im playing at empty server i want to have some human opponents but no one comes its not my fault.

u decide but i strongly think that this update is not fair at all and i thank peyoteros and Mustang for their support and specially their great fair play.

let me know clearly your final decision please Torwak.

TY.

 

Flank first of all I don't hatred with you and scoring system update is not connected with your actions. I've been planned to update scoring system for along time. The reason why you shouldn't think that I made it against of you.

 

We installed to =TuAF= Server I for human vs human encounters, that's why AI's musn't be so much important there. As you know that it's easy to kill AI controlled planes when you compare with human controlled plane.

 

I hope you can understand me and give a right.

[FLANKERATOR]

ok then.

 

would you mind if you remove all AH callsigns from the April stats please.

TY.

[Renato71]

I think that changing the scoring system on the fly is not a good thing. Such changes should be announced in advance, and if scoring is rotated monthly, then it should be changed when stats for new month are started, not in the middle of the gameplay.

 

Nobody likes to join a game that has one set of rules at the start, and changes the rules as the games goes by. Some people may see this as adapting the rules to your own needs, not as making them fair. Fair changes should be introduced with a new start (of the month).

 

When you join certain server that has its own statistics you will do your best do make use of those stats. Naturally, there are people that are boasting with particular part of the score, but it is the total score created by the server and under server rules that matters most.

 

Each server has different flying rules and different scoring rules. Even if I do not personally agree with some scoring systems, I think that such diversity gives us two things:

1 - Finding out what scoring and flying rules represents flying skills to the their best (which is also a good testing ground for proposed LO ladder)

2 - Giving an opportunity to people to find a scoring system that they consider as correct and just.

 

Person A thinks that server 1 has better rules; person B has the same opinion about server 2. Each chooses preferred server. Flankerator choose TuAF for the rules declared at the start of the game (month). He joined up to TuAF server and played a lot because of this and that reason. No matter the real reason, you cannot blame him for taking the advantage of the scoring system and ask for banning! Such reaction is childish. It proves only that accuser was not smart enough to read the rules.

 

As the game itself has some flaws that are misused by some, we should not hold it back against others that they are using flaws in scoring system and/or missions to their benefit. Maybe Flankerator really has no other timeframe available to play? Accusing him for "choosing a particular timeframe" is like accusing anyone that jumps around for printscreening, while that person could have some genuine lagg issues.

 

For example, I would appreciate bonus scoring for ground targets destroyed by cannon. Currently, there is no such bonus on TuAF-II. Boberros is using this to the best advantage, destroying numerous targets with missiles, and very few with canon. Should we ban him on TuAF on account of that? Destroying thousands of AI easy way? I see no reason - he is playing smart, using scoring rules to his advantage and for that I applaud him. Even if there are some of you that thing how easy it is what he is doing, then they better try to fly Su-25T for 6 hours and make 100 landings without crashing a plane! That alone is enough for a substantial award.

 

Look it on the bright side - even if Flankerator is doing this on purpose, this will make erros in missions and scoring more visible. There was a mention about escort leaving AWACS. Well, this means that mission is flawed, not scoring! There should be a replacement or refuleing for escort. I would be grateful to someone that spotted such error in my own mission, even if using MY scoring AGAINST me ;)

 

Server rules are server rules. We can discuss about them, but they should not be changed in the middle of the game (month). Sticking up with one sets of rules until they expire is THE most fair concept of them all.

 

Cheers!

[TorwaK]

as we're not going to ban anybody from server, we can't let people to use deficient sides of scoring system too. If you want to be a winner, you must deserve it. Like others.

 

S!

[GGTharos]

How do you handle people who exit and respawn the moment they are out of weapons, or when they are being chased?

[Peyoteros]

How do you handle people who exit and respawn the moment they are out of weapons, or when they are being chased?

 

We call them "Chicken shit" ;)

[TorwaK]

How do you handle people who exit and respawn the moment they are out of weapons, or when they are being chased?

 

If we receive complain, checking ACMI files. After that find the player from log files and start to investigate IP range of his ISP. But of course we filter the IP range carefully.

[GGTharos]

Thank you Torwak :)