Tiger-II Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Hi, Is it correct that TWS RADAR gate size can not be changed with HOTAS RIGHT? It works with RWS mode, but not TWS. Instead, the MFD button must be pressed. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
AeriaGloria Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Yup, if you look at the HOTAS keybinds Page S2 right wont do anything in TWS, it’s suppossed to be that way Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Tiger-II Posted May 21, 2020 Author Posted May 21, 2020 Yup, if you look at the HOTAS keybinds Page S2 right wont do anything in TWS, it’s suppossed to be that way Thanks! I read it worked that way but wasn't sure. :thumbup: Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
SuumCuique Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Is it intended, that S2 right does nothing for TWS? It feels weird to have a HOTAS button that does nothing in this mode, even though it would be intuitive if it had the same function in all modes.
AeriaGloria Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 The topic has come up a few times and it’s always been said to be intended. I thought also a typo at first. Along with the new RWS modes it make differentiating between RWS and TWS even more difficult. What is the design philosophy of choosing one over the other? One has more vertical room but less horizontal room, I can’t figure it out Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Tiger-II Posted May 21, 2020 Author Posted May 21, 2020 The topic has come up a few times and it’s always been said to be intended. I thought also a typo at first. Along with the new RWS modes it make differentiating between RWS and TWS even more difficult. What is the design philosophy of choosing one over the other? One has more vertical room but less horizontal room, I can’t figure it out TWS is set up the way it is because it is a TIME-CONSTANT SCAN MODE. If it scans a wider area, it uses lower bar count to have the same scan time. This is generally true across RADAR systems due to target tracking. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
AeriaGloria Posted May 21, 2020 Posted May 21, 2020 Thing is, it’s RWS that has a wider scan with less elevation coverage and more bar overlap. TWS has less azimuth, but less bar overlap so it covers more vertically. So you could say RWS is scanning a slightly smaller but wider area more thoroughly Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Tiger-II Posted May 22, 2020 Author Posted May 22, 2020 Thing is, it’s RWS that has a wider scan with less elevation coverage and more bar overlap. TWS has less azimuth, but less bar overlap so it covers more vertically. So you could say RWS is scanning a slightly smaller but wider area more thoroughly Interesting. I thought the bars were the same size. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
foxwxl Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 SAM now have 2 sub mode implemented:NAM/ASM, and SAM mode will command the radar to do a spot scan on HPT & SPT on every frame to increase the accuracy of tracking(the addon spot scan pattern and FCR animation is currently under construction). In NAM, you can command a 30deg 4bar scan pattern if you like. TWS can provide a 25deg 3bar scan pattern(EL coverage smaller than RWS 4bar), but it have a better SA on FCR. TWS can not switch AZ by hotas, the real manual says it works that way, so be it. Deka Ironwork Tester Team
Rudel_chw Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) SAM now have 2 sub mode implemented:NAM/ASM, and SAM mode will command the radar to do a spot scan on HPT & SPT on every frame to increase the accuracy of tracking(the addon spot scan pattern and FCR animation is currently under construction). In NAM, you can command a 30deg 4bar scan pattern if you like. Hi, I want to update my BVR Training mission to incorporate this change, however the Quick Guide included on the /doc folder is outdated and has no useful info about this ... can you please provide a little more information about these NAM and ASM submodes? how you go from one to the other? what are the practical use of each sub-mode? Thanks a lot, Eduardo Edit: Nevermind, found the answer on the changelog: Added radar SAM sub mode ASM/NAM: if hpt is designated in RWS (radar mode into SAM), pilot can cycle ASM/NAM SAM sub mode by HOTAS/key S2_Left ; Code: NAM: pilot have to set radar scan az and line manually;ASM: radar scan az and line is set automatic, cannot manually set by pilot. hpt range > 20nm, 30.0 degrees, 2 line; hpt range <= 20nm, 15.0 degrees, 4 line; Edited May 22, 2020 by Rudel_chw For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
foxwxl Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Hi, I want to update my BVR Training mission to incorporate this change, however the Quick Guide included on the /doc folder is outdated and has no useful info about this ... can you please provide a little more information about these NAM and ASM submodes? how you go from one to the other? what are the practical use of each sub-mode? Thanks a lot, Eduardo Edit: Nevermind, found the answer on the changelog: Added radar SAM sub mode ASM/NAM: if hpt is designated in RWS (radar mode into SAM), pilot can cycle ASM/NAM SAM sub mode by HOTAS/key S2_Left ; Code: NAM: pilot have to set radar scan az and line manually;ASM: radar scan az and line is set automatic, cannot manually set by pilot. hpt range > 20nm, 30.0 degrees, 2 line; hpt range <= 20nm, 15.0 degrees, 4 line; Thx for your training missions. It helps a lot. Deka Ironwork Tester Team
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