Pilot Display Unit?

[Flagrum]

According to documents, the Kiowa has or had some sort of HUD or collimated gun sight, called the Pilot Display Unit (PDU).

 

 

Afaik the Polychop Kiowa does not have this device and I wonder why? Is it not in service (anymore) or what are the reasons?

 

 

 

Does anyone know? Polychop?

[Polychop Simulations]

Hi Flagrum, We've been looking in to this very cool system and we might or might not add it, that is still undecided. The PDU on the Kiowa Warrior was only used in combination with the night vision goggles (ANVIS), so if we add it, it will only work when using NVG's.

[barundus]

KW did have a sophisticated HUD; the "PDU" (Pilot Display Unit). Was a two-pane unit, capable of displaying full weapons symbology. Attached to the frame at the top of the windscreen and hung down. Was a bit bulky.

It was NVG compatible, but we were restricted from using them at night because there was a tendency to knock your NVGs off when it was mounted. Consequently, they just sat in the arms room.

Hardpoints and wiring were removed from all aircraft in 2004 as part of a weight-reduction initiative.

Edited July 12, 2020 by barundus
adding images

[Polychop Simulations]

Thanks for setting me straight, I was thinking Flagrum was talking about the ODA when mentioning a HUD style instrument. When it comes to the ODA, my reply still stands though ;)

 

https://duotechservices.com/repairing-oh-58-sight-unit-of-helmet-mounted-display-hmd

[Coota0]

KW did have a sophisticated HUD; the "PDU" (Pilot Display Unit). Was a two-pane unit, capable of displaying full weapons symbology. Attached to the frame at the top of the windscreen and hung down. Was a bit bulky.

It was NVG compatible, but we were restricted from using them at night because there was a tendency to knock your NVGs off when it was mounted. Consequently, they just sat in the arms room.

Hardpoints and wiring were removed from all aircraft in 2004 as part of a weight-reduction initiative.

 

I've never seen one or even a picture, thanks for sharing.

[Harlikwin]

Thanks for setting me straight, I was thinking Flagrum was talking about the ODA when mentioning a HUD style instrument. When it comes to the ODA, my reply still stands though ;)

 

https://duotechservices.com/repairing-oh-58-sight-unit-of-helmet-mounted-display-hmd

 

You should model NVG burn in for those :lol:

[flo57100]

See that black-marker-drawn cross on the cockpit bubble in front of you ? That's your gun sight :megalol:

[Cukrrak]

So, is the PDU (Pilot Display Unit) going to be included in the module?

On 7/12/2020 at 7:22 PM, barundus said:

KW did have a sophisticated HUD; the "PDU" (Pilot Display Unit). Was a two-pane unit, capable of displaying full weapons symbology. Attached to the frame at the top of the windscreen and hung down. Was a bit bulky.

It was NVG compatible, but we were restricted from using them at night because there was a tendency to knock your NVGs off when it was mounted. Consequently, they just sat in the arms room.

Hardpoints and wiring were removed from all aircraft in 2004 as part of a weight-reduction initiative.

 

[Ramsay]

13 hours ago, Cukrrak said:

So, is the PDU (Pilot Display Unit) going to be included in the module?

Not AFAIK.

[EvilBert VR]

Should be like this:

 

[Ramsay]

3 hours ago, EvilBert VR said:

Should be like this:

The PDU (Pilot Display Unit) attached to the aircraft and was as described by Barundus

 

The ODA (Optical Display Assembly) attached to NVG's and was a HUD/MFD repeater focused at infinity.

@EvilBert VRNeither look like the helmet pictured, what is the name of the HDU, when/were was it fielded on KW operations and how many units were equipped ?

[Coota0]

20 hours ago, EvilBert VR said:

Should be like this:

 

That looks like a day HUD. Ive never seen anyone actually use one. I don't know if there was one for the KW. That one looks like it would be compatible with Blackhawk or a Chinook, not a Kiowa. As already said the PDU would have been attached to the aircraft.

[cgrxman]

The only time I ever flew with a PDU was Stinger shots in the Prime Chance aircraft.  Since weapons were not directly integrated with the CDS in the PC birds, you couldn't shoot ATAS without it IIRC.  It was not preferred otherwise because it represented a major injury hazard in the event of a crash.

Edit:  The PDU was day compatible (like any other HUD) and we did use it during daytime Stinger gunnery.  It had settings for gun and rockets too.

Edited December 27, 2023 by cgrxman

[Flagrum]

How is the decision making progress here? What do we get - do we get any of these devices? :D

[Jonbloor7]

Unless any major issues arise, ODA and PDU should be present on release.

PDU is toggled via Mission Editor options. ODA comes standard. Both really cool bits of kit.