162ndLoadtoad Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 I’m new here. I’ve been playing DCS for about 4 months. I just purchased a pimax 5k VR headset and I can’t seem to get the settings dialed in. It either stutters so bad that it goes out of focus and I have to re-boot or its blurry much worse that my Rift ever was! I've read and tried just about every thread and search article I can find. Most info is so old the settings don't match or the tools are new versions with settings they no longer have. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I was using a Rift S which was running great! Here are my settings on all of equipment: My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 3900, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX , 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 SSD, Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB 4400MHz, EVGA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Super (planning on purchasing a NVIDIA 3080 or 3090 leaning towards the 3090), Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Siatek Rudder Pedals NVIDIA 3D Settings Computer Settings Driver Version: 27.21.14.5206 Image Sharpening-OFF Ambient Occlusion-Quality Anisotropic filtering - App Controlled Antialiasing (FXAA)-On Antialiasing (Gamma Correction)-On Antialiasing (Mode)-Off Antialiasing (Setting)-None (I can’t change this setting) Antialiasing (Transparency)-None (I can’t change this setting) CUDA (GPU)-All DSR (Factors)-1.20x (native Resolution DSR (Smoothness)-25% Low Latency Mode-Ultra Max Frame Rate-Off (MFAA) - On OpenGL Rendering GPU-GeForce RTX SUPER Power Management - Max Performance Preferred refresh rate - Highest Available Shader Cache - On Texture filtering Anisotropic sample optimization - off Texture filtering Negative LOD bias- Clamp Texture filtering quality - High Quality Texture filtering trilinear optimization - on Threaded optimization - Auto Triple buffering - off Vertical sync - off Virtual Reality pre-rendered frames – 3 Virtual Reality (Variable Rate Super Sampling)- Adaptive PiTool Current Version: V1.0.1.261 Headset Firmware: V2.1.255.266 Tracking Mode: Lighthouse Refresh Rate:72 Hz IPD Offset-0 Screen Vertical offset value L/R-0 FOV-Normal Render Quality-1.25 GPU Catalist-0 Fixed Foveated Rendering-Balanced Smart Smoothing-On Steam VR Current Version: Beta 1.14.14 Refresh Rate 72Hz Render Resolution- Custom 176% 9220x4364 (If I lower this the picture is very blurry much worse than my Rift S) Advanced Supersample Filtering- on Overlay Render Quality-(AUTO(High)) DCS Settings MSAA-Off Anisotropic filtering-2X cockpit displays set to 1024 VR pixel density 1.9 depending on fps chimney smoke 0 - this is a frame killer for me textures high terrain textures high civ traffic-Off water high visib range high heat blur-Off Shadows-Low Page Break depth of field-off lens effects none motion blur off ssaa off clutter grass o trees 50% preload 100000 gamma 2.2 terrain object shadows-0 cockpit global illumination-off Rain- ON disable areo check Vsync-uncheck full screen-uncheck scale gui-uncheck AMD Ryzen 9 3900, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX , 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 SSD, Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB 4400MHz, NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 FE, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Siatek Rudder Pedals
The_Nephilim Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 your VR Pixel density is Way too high.. I thought the 5K had a higher res as it was no need to make the PD reall high.. I see your render rez is whay high too but you said any lower and it is blurry. I thought the 5k was supposed to look better and really not needing to make the PD and such real high.. I have a friend who has the 5K Pimax and he says it looks great and I am unsure of his PD settings but I doubt they need to be real high like you have them at.. Perhaps something wrong with the Panels in the headset. Intel Ultra 265K 5.5GHZ / Gigabyte Z890 Aorus Elite / MSI 4070Ti Ventus 12GB / SoundBlaster Z SoundCard / Corsair Vengance 64GB Ram / HP Reverb G2 / Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Games / Crucial 512GB M.2 Win 11 Pro 21H2 / ButtKicker Gamer / CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh V2 PC Case
hansangb Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I’m new here. I’ve been playing DCS for about 4 months. I just purchased a pimax 5k VR headset and I can’t seem to get the settings dialed in. It either stutters so bad that it goes out of focus and I have to re-boot or its blurry much worse that my Rift ever was! I've read and tried just about every thread and search article I can find. Most info is so old the settings don't match or the tools are new versions with settings they no longer have. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I was using a Rift S which was running great! Here are my settings on all of equipment: My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 3900, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX , 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 SSD, Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB 4400MHz, EVGA GEFORCE RTX 2080 Super (planning on purchasing a NVIDIA 3080 or 3090 leaning towards the 3090), Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Siatek Rudder Pedals NVIDIA 3D Settings Computer Settings Driver Version: 27.21.14.5206 Image Sharpening-OFF Ambient Occlusion-Quality Anisotropic filtering - App Controlled Antialiasing (FXAA)-On Antialiasing (Gamma Correction)-On Antialiasing (Mode)-Off Antialiasing (Setting)-None (I can’t change this setting) Antialiasing (Transparency)-None (I can’t change this setting) CUDA (GPU)-All DSR (Factors)-1.20x (native Resolution DSR (Smoothness)-25% Low Latency Mode-Ultra Max Frame Rate-Off (MFAA) - On OpenGL Rendering GPU-GeForce RTX SUPER Power Management - Max Performance Preferred refresh rate - Highest Available Shader Cache - On Texture filtering Anisotropic sample optimization - off Texture filtering Negative LOD bias- Clamp Texture filtering quality - High Quality Texture filtering trilinear optimization - on Threaded optimization - Auto Triple buffering - off Vertical sync - off Virtual Reality pre-rendered frames – 3 Virtual Reality (Variable Rate Super Sampling)- Adaptive PiTool Current Version: V1.0.1.261 Headset Firmware: V2.1.255.266 Tracking Mode: Lighthouse Refresh Rate:72 Hz IPD Offset-0 Screen Vertical offset value L/R-0 FOV-Normal Render Quality-1.25 GPU Catalist-0 Fixed Foveated Rendering-Balanced Smart Smoothing-On Steam VR Current Version: Beta 1.14.14 Refresh Rate 72Hz Render Resolution- Custom 176% 9220x4364 (If I lower this the picture is very blurry much worse than my Rift S) Advanced Supersample Filtering- on Overlay Render Quality-(AUTO(High)) DCS Settings MSAA-Off Anisotropic filtering-2X cockpit displays set to 1024 VR pixel density 1.9 depending on fps chimney smoke 0 - this is a frame killer for me textures high terrain textures high civ traffic-Off water high visib range high heat blur-Off Shadows-Low Page Break depth of field-off lens effects none motion blur off ssaa off clutter grass o trees 50% preload 100000 gamma 2.2 terrain object shadows-0 cockpit global illumination-off Rain- ON disable areo check Vsync-uncheck full screen-uncheck scale gui-uncheck Make sure you took the plastic off the lens. Might as well as rule it out. 5KPlus was way clearer for me. But Pitools immaturity led me to ditch it in favor of HP's Rift (which was yet another step up from 5K+). Remove the PD. So set it to 0 in DCS. You don't need it since you're doing it in SteamVR. But the SS value seems way way way too high. 5K+'s native resolution is 2560 × 1440 and you're setting it to 9220x4364!! On my 8700K/2080Ti setup I used the settings below. If you google for "hansangb pimax through the lens" you'll find the video that I did. I'm pretty sure I went over the settings in that video. Also, I use Process Lasso. There is a free version so you might want to give that a go. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
gianlu320 Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Your PD is too high, also make sure you dialed the IPD in the pimax correctly. Unfortunately as far as I know the pimax IPD doesn't correspond precisely to your interpupillary one so trial and error is required. Also make sure you have parallel reprojection off, DCS soesn't need it. And Hidden area mask on.
162ndLoadtoad Posted September 17, 2020 Author Posted September 17, 2020 Make sure you took the plastic off the lens. Might as well as rule it out. 5KPlus was way clearer for me. But Pitools immaturity led me to ditch it in favor of HP's Rift (which was yet another step up from 5K+). Remove the PD. So set it to 0 in DCS. You don't need it since you're doing it in SteamVR. But the SS value seems way way way too high. 5K+'s native resolution is 2560 × 1440 and you're setting it to 9220x4364!! On my 8700K/2080Ti setup I used the settings below. If you google for "hansangb pimax through the lens" you'll find the video that I did. I'm pretty sure I went over the settings in that video. Also, I use Process Lasso. There is a free version so you might want to give that a go. Your saying the HP Rift is better than the 5K? I’ll just send the 5K back and get the HP Rift! AMD Ryzen 9 3900, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX , 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 SSD, Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB 4400MHz, NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 FE, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Siatek Rudder Pedals
speed-of-heat Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 You have at least 4 mechanisms for SS switched on ... PD, Steam SS, MSAA, and what ever Render Quality is ... and they all are multiplicative Turn them all off... take DCS game PD 1.0 , take steam SS to 100% I don't really know what the PI Render Tool Render Quality is but , i would start that at 1.0 as well.... I would turn off MSAA as well just run everything at native resolution... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
hansangb Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Your saying the HP Rift is better than the 5K? I’ll just send the 5K back and get the HP Rift! Yes. But REVERB.. Not Rift. But you probably knew that already. The second generation is going to ship soon that has a larger sweeter spot and better lens per MRTV reviews. Also, the wider FoV on Pimax was great. Everything else, not so much. So I got the Reverb instead. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
162ndLoadtoad Posted September 17, 2020 Author Posted September 17, 2020 Yes. But REVERB.. Not Rift. But you probably knew that already. The second generation is going to ship soon that has a larger sweeter spot and better lens per MRTV reviews. Also, the wider FoV on Pimax was great. Everything else, not so much. So I got the Reverb instead. I just pre-ordered one. I did work out the 5K though! AMD Ryzen 9 3900, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX , 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 SSD, Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB 4400MHz, NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 FE, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Siatek Rudder Pedals
162ndLoadtoad Posted September 17, 2020 Author Posted September 17, 2020 You have at least 4 mechanisms for SS switched on ... PD, Steam SS, MSAA, and what ever Render Quality is ... and they all are multiplicative Turn them all off... take DCS game PD 1.0 , take steam SS to 100% I don't really know what the PI Render Tool Render Quality is but , i would start that at 1.0 as well.... I would turn off MSAA as well just run everything at native resolution... That worked! I dropped the Steam VR tp 100% and the IPD in DCS to 1.0. That stopped the freezing and shuddering issue. I then was able to push the IPD in DCS up to 1.6 no issues Thanks for the suggestions! None I have a problem with dead pixels in the 5K which means a return. I’m going to try and make a deal on an 8K. If that doesn’t work I pre-ordered The HP Reverb G2. Now if I get my hands on a 3080 or 3090 GPUs soon! I stayed up,all night I couldn’t get the 3080... something fishy on the launch! AMD Ryzen 9 3900, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX , 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 SSD, Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB 4400MHz, NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 FE, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Siatek Rudder Pedals
hansangb Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I just pre-ordered one. I did work out the 5K though! Tucsonan! Went to U of A and lived by Pima College West near gates pass. Beautiful! I miss it, but not the damn cholla's. I can't tell you how many I had in my system after running into them during Army ROTC field training. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
162ndLoadtoad Posted September 18, 2020 Author Posted September 18, 2020 Tucsonan! Went to U of A and lived by Pima College West near gates pass. Beautiful! I miss it, but not the damn cholla's. I can't tell you how many I had in my system after running into them during Army ROTC field training. :) Yeah the chollas are not fun! just carry a comb! Ahh... I did AF ROTC for a year! Decided to take a different path! AMD Ryzen 9 3900, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX , 1TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 SSD, Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB 4400MHz, NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 FE, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Siatek Rudder Pedals
Recommended Posts