LastRifleRound Posted May 2, 2008 Author Posted May 2, 2008 Can't wait for Shkval vid..... Simware has Black Shark for release 09/20/08 I hope that's them theorizing. I was still hoping for a summer release ;) Either way, the producer's notes are cool. They definitely keep me interested and satisfied till the sim comes out. Back to some Jane's F/A-18. Haven't gotten my rotorhead fix since I've been unable to get LB2 to work with XP......
CAT_101st Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 Back to some Jane's F/A-18. Haven't gotten my rotorhead fix since I've been unable to get LB2 to work with XP...... I still have a old P3 933 with 512mb Pc133 and a Gforce 3 card. Running win 98 so I can still play thoes games. :D Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/
LastRifleRound Posted May 4, 2008 Author Posted May 4, 2008 I still have a old P3 933 with 512mb Pc133 and a Gforce 3 card. Running win 98 so I can still play thoes games. :D Nice!!! Luckily JF-18 runs superbly on my system with just a little gridding in the water. I think I'm going to need a serious upgrade for Black Shark. Just cleaned the house top to bottom to boost the likelihood of wife approval :smilewink: I can't wait to see how much effect a properly calibrated INS has on the Shkval system. I read accounts of the Apache raid that kicked off Desert Storm. They had to be very particular in updating their doppler INS as it somehow effected the range at which the TADS could acquire and track targets. I would imagine this is a result of the gyro making compensation for the relative motion of the chopper....
Maxum Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 I will buy this title but only with the hopes that they include an F/A-18C in the future. I have never been a copter fan :pilotfly:
NotiA10 Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 i will buy this title also in the hope that there will be an A-10 addon soon :music_whistling: :megalol: :thumbup: :pilotfly: NotiA10 CoolerMaster HAF RC-932 - Intel Core i7 950 - Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R - Kingston DDR3 6GB - Gigabyte Radeon HD 5870 EF 6 Edition - Western Digital 640GB SATA-III - CoolerMaster 700W - TrackIR Pro 4 - Saitek X52 - Saitek Rudder Pedals - Hotas Warthog
GGTharos Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 I think it has more to do with passive ranging and datalinked targets, and precision flight than actual target acquisition; the fire control system can easily be pretty independent of the INS, and the same is true in the Black Shark. Now, if your INS drifts and you're trying to attack a datalinked target in some automated nav-to-target mode ... you might find that the target isn't where the computer thinks it is :D I can't wait to see how much effect a properly calibrated INS has on the Shkval system. I read accounts of the Apache raid that kicked off Desert Storm. They had to be very particular in updating their doppler INS as it somehow effected the range at which the TADS could acquire and track targets. I would imagine this is a result of the gyro making compensation for the relative motion of the chopper.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
AlphaOneSix Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 I read accounts of the Apache raid that kicked off Desert Storm. They had to be very particular in updating their doppler INS as it somehow effected the range at which the TADS could acquire and track targets. I would imagine this is a result of the gyro making compensation for the relative motion of the chopper.... I'm very curious about where you read this, so I could have a look myself. While the doppler navigation system of the Apache can send information to the fire control computer, it has no effect on the ability of the TADS to acquire and track targets. One way in which they are linked, for example, is if you tell the TADS to look at a specific point on the ground by entering a set of grid coordinates. If your doppler is off (which is actually fairly common over featureless desert) then your TADS might not point at the correct spot. Still, it would only be off by a relatively small amount, and you can't use that to acquire or track a target anyway. During Desert Storm, GPS was still in relatively short supply in the military, and the Apache didn't have it. Because of the inherent problems with doppler navigation over the desert, it was decided to have Air Force MH-53's handle the navigation, and they led the Apaches to a point near their targets, and the Apaches moved into the battle positions on their own from there. 1
LastRifleRound Posted May 8, 2008 Author Posted May 8, 2008 I'm very curious about where you read this, so I could have a look myself....quote] It was linked story off a thread in this very forum. I wish i could remember what. In fact, it was an official Air Force website that the link went to. It was simply a recounting of the events of that raid. As far "TADS acquisition" I believe you answered the question. Again, they said it affected "TADS acquisition," which probably refers to the TADS poining at the proper spot on the ground so they could acquire at maximum range. They don't go into detail on just what they mean by this, just stressing the importance of the MH-53s (which I believe were Air Force crewed IIRC). As you said, the featureless desert makes this more important than other AO's I would imagine. You were a crew chief for Army Aviation, right? So I'm sure your interpretation is more accurate than mine. I just didn't know in a GPS equipped aircraft what the value or necessity of updating the INS is. Perhaps that is a better question to ask?
GGTharos Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 What if your GPS fails? What if a solar flare whacks the GPS satellite while you're on a approach through clouds/fog? In a military context, what if you are involved in nuclear warfare and your GPS gets EMP'ed out of the sky? The INS also provides you with other data, such as pitch/bank/heading etc. Because all the systems in the AC already take the input from the INS, you may as well do an INS update from the GPS instead of trying to mix inputs. Lastly, redundancy is your friend when it can save your life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
ED Team Wags Posted May 8, 2008 ED Team Posted May 8, 2008 No, but you can customize the satellite constellation. :) So, if you wanted to, you could remove all the sats. It's also interesting to note that LOS is modeled between the aircraft and each sat. So, when flying in mountains, your coverage can be limited due to LOS. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
AlphaOneSix Posted May 8, 2008 Posted May 8, 2008 You were a crew chief for Army Aviation, right? Indeed. Apaches, in fact. :D
LastRifleRound Posted May 9, 2008 Author Posted May 9, 2008 Yes I remember now and thank you for your service :thumbup: You must be excited for the Apache module when it comes out. Co-op piloting at it's finest, I'd say. Although I must admit it will be very interesting to see how the DCS iteration of the A-10 compares to the LOMAC version.... TBH, I think this is the first sim I've ever seen that even bothers with INS updating. I'm excited to learn all about it. They're really leaving no stone unturned here. No, but you can customize the satellite constellation... Huh? I can't even begin to understand the complexity of what different sat constellations will have as an effect on GPS.
AlphaOneSix Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Maybe you mean this? http://www.afa.org/magazine/perspectives/desert_storm/1091apache.html Just finished reading it. Cody is "dumbing it down", I think. When he says "lock on" he is referring to pointing the TADS at a specific point on the ground so that you don't have to work so hard to search for targets. Of course, this assumes that you have exact coordinates of your target (which they did, it's not like they moved the EW site around). This would allow the Apaches to begin scanning the right spot for targets as far out as possible. Also, much hate for Dick Cody. :mad: Too much ego (but he does love Apaches).
LastRifleRound Posted May 10, 2008 Author Posted May 10, 2008 Maybe you mean this? http://www.afa.org/magazine/perspectives/desert_storm/1091apache.html Sure do! That's the article I was talking about. Looks like you're hunch was right Alpha, I had some wacky thought that since the INS calculated bank etc. to the pilot that it would affect the auto-stabilize and auto-track on the TADS. Makes way more sense that they just needed accurate coordinates to keep acquisition time to as little as possible. I'm glad to see that some of these are in the Sim so that people will actually have to deal with the INS Yes! I'm really happy the navigation system isn't something "tacked on," and that it will actually play a large role in the pilot's work load as in RL.
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