Thrustmaster Warthog Gun Firing By Itself

[melchionda]

Hi, I have the Thrustmaster Warthog Stick and Throttle.  I noticed that every now and then the gun will fire by itself.  At first I thought I was unknowingly squeezing the trigger, but last night it happened again and I was able to completely let go of the stick while it was continuously firing.  Anyone ever see anything like this and more importantly were you able to fix it?

[speed-of-heat]

are you pressing any other buttons when this happens? If so you may well have bound to buttons to fire or it  defaults that way 

[melchionda]

13 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

are you pressing any other buttons when this happens? If so you may well have bound to buttons to fire or it  defaults that way 

I was thinking that might be a problem too, so what I did was go into the Controls Config page and I made sure to delete any mappings for the gun trigger except for the one for the actual trigger.  However I still wasn't convinced I had eradicated that possibility until last night when I was able to completely let go of the stick while it was firing.  After I let go of the stick It even paused for a split second and then started firing again.

[SGT Coyle]

In the spirit of eliminating the hardware.

1. Press WIN + r
2. type "joy.cpl" and hit run
3. Select "Joystick - HOTAS Warthog" and click properties

Play with the stick.  Move it around, hit the buttons, and watch the lights.  Let go and watch for lights 1 and 6 to light up.  Those are the first and second stage triggers.

If nothing happens for a period of time then it's probably programming related. 

If you do get a light without squeezing the trigger, then you probably have a hardware issue.  Contacting Thrustmaster would be a good idea.

 

Do you use TARGET GUI or Script Editor?

If so would you post you Profile or Script.

[melchionda]

8 hours ago, SGT Coyle said:

In the spirit of eliminating the hardware.

1. Press WIN + r
2. type "joy.cpl" and hit run
3. Select "Joystick - HOTAS Warthog" and click properties

Play with the stick.  Move it around, hit the buttons, and watch the lights.  Let go and watch for lights 1 and 6 to light up.  Those are the first and second stage triggers.

If nothing happens for a period of time then it's probably programming related. 

If you do get a light without squeezing the trigger, then you probably have a hardware issue.  Contacting Thrustmaster would be a good idea.

 

Do you use TARGET GUI or Script Editor?

If so would you post you Profile or Script.

Thanks so much!  Thats awesome, I will do that.  

 

I do not use TARGET or a Script Editor.  I never really saw a need and not really sure how they would help.  I use voice attack for some things that I cant do in the cockpit in VR, but lately I've gone to programing two sets of about 30 buttons on two big button boxes which are wired to Leo Bodnar boards.

[Osita]

Hi ... this problem can happen if you accidentally twist the stick so that it rotates slightly in the base and the pins get temporarily disconnected or temporarily fail. In an extreme case, the pins can get permanently damaged. This is the worst and strangest thing about the decision by TM (and also Virpil) to use PS2 style connectors.  These sticks are too big and heavy to be safe with such flimsy connectors that are easily damaged. The sticks also rotate easily in the base when you're in the thick of a battle, and using a stick extension can increase the possibiltiy of that happening. If you feel any unnatural rotation while playing, you should pause the game or let go of the controls, check the collar that connects the stick to the base (or extension) is tight, resume the game and do a test fire.

 

Another possible cause is conflicting mapping. If you are sure it's not the hardware, look in your control settings under the HOTAS category and then check the gun trigger item. You may find more than one hardware item is mapped to be the gun trigger.  If so, delete any unwanted mappings.

[melchionda]

I figured out what the problem was.  I figured out that some peripherals when you plug them into your PC and open DCS they will be automatically bind to certain controls.  Sometimes this is helpful.  Other times it isn't.  In my most recent case I built a set of driving pedals that use an Arduino Board to talk to my PC.  The Joystick program on the Arduino board has a channel for rudder pedals.  Im not using it but it is there.  There also happens to be some noise on that channel.  On a flight yesterday I saw that my rudder pedals (in the plane) were moving on their own. I went into control settings and I saw that my Arduino was now one of the controller options and it had the rudder pedals bound to an axis.  I went in and deleted that binding and the rudder pedals stopped moving on their own.  This is similar to what I did a few months ago for the gun trigger.  I went in and deleted the other gun trigger bindings that were automatically set up.

[Ramstein]

This is old topic, but my Warthog does this in IL-2 after flying DCS, without rebooting first. I was going to look this up along while back but just got around to looking up to see if others have this issue. It is very annoying and sucks,, it uses up a lot of the WWII aircraft ammo and at bad times.. No one sems to have this issue.